Red Light Cameras: About Saving Lives or Increasing Revenue?
Red light cameras are now a staple to the Commack area. Find out where these cameras are located in Suffolk County so you can avoid them and their fee.
Many of you may have noticed that red light cameras have popped up all over Commack and the rest of Long Island. Several of you may have even received your very own complimentary photograph in the mail of you driving through said red light… accompanied by a not-so-welcome ticket for $50.
Both Nassau and Suffolk counties got the approval from the state in 2009 to install red light cameras at their 50 most dangerous intersections after a real battle over the bills in the NYS Legislature. But the placement of some of these cameras, and their knack for catching drivers who do not come to a full-and-complete stop before making a legal right on red make me wonder: are these red light cameras really about saving innocent lives or increasing revenue at the cost of taxpayers?
According to a national study conducted by the Federal Highway Administration, the installation of red light cameras has been shown to decrease broadside crashes (at those intersections in which the cameras are installed) by approximately 25%. It also found that at intersections with red light cameras the number of rear-end crashes have increased by 15%.
So what does this all mean?
Broadside crashes, otherwise known as t-bone crashes, are considered the most dangerous since the doors are the weakest part of the car and thus tend to cause the most injuries to passengers. Rear-end crashes are not as bad and thus are apparently considered a “necessary evil” in the implementation of these red light cameras.
Okay, so it seems like red light cameras, at least statistically as provided by the federal government, appear to decrease the number of fatal accidents at any given intersection.
But aren’t there other ways to do the same thing without charging (relatively) law-abiding citizens?
Studies have shown that simply increasing the yellow light time does virtually the same thing as a red light camera; it decreases the number of broadside crashes and fatal accidents at an intersection. And because less people will be slamming on their brakes for fear of getting a $50 ticket, less vehicles will also be involved in rear-end collisions.
And the best part of increasing the yellow light time? No more of your hard earned money comes out of your pocket to sustain a failing state budget. (Well, I guess that’s only good for us average citizens…)
Now, about those intersections where it is legal to make a right on red and you still get a pretty little ticket in the mail. You clearly did not come to a complete stop before making said turn. Generally, these violations actually come with a video where you can watch yourself online in full glory, making the right on red without stopping.
But this still begs the question; how many fatal car crashes are actually caused by motorists making a legal right on red without coming to a complete stop? To me, this is like asking: How many accidents are caused by people trying to merge either onto or off of the Northern State at a glacial pace? Except in this case, the latter is legal, and no complete stop is necessary.
So with all due respect, I ask the great state of New York—what gives?
If installing red light cameras are really just about gaining revenue then why not increase the price of motor vehicle registration? Or attempt to make every person in the state pay an exorbitant fee to get a new license plate that they may or may not want? Oh wait…you already did that.
Attached is a list of red light cameras in Suffolk County. If you know of more please share below in the comments. Your fellow motorists will thank you.
Stephen
11:12 pm on Wednesday, March 2, 2011
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3413.asp
Quote: Earlier this month, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) generated a significant amount of positive publicity for red light cameras by claiming red light cameras caused a reduction in fatal accidents (view report). The more rigorous FHWA study found that 0.5 percent of angle crashes were fatal in the "before" period without red light cameras. After cameras were installed, the figure grew to 0.8 percent. The FHWA study concluded there was a financial benefit from crash reductions due to the use of cameras, but only because the FHWA chose to exclude fatal accidents from their estimates. USF re-calculated the FHWA numbers including fatalities to find that red light camera use resulted in a net loss of $17,360 per intersection in estimated accident costs, according to the FHWA methodology.
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Katie Kennedy
8:02 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
It takes one second to stop before making a right on red. If you don't stop, all you're trying to do is to beat the guy who has the right of way. If you don't stop, you deserve a ticket.
Sean
12:27 pm on Wednesday, April 20, 2011
Katie,
You have to see the video that I received on my ticket to believe it. This is purely a money raiser because in no way can one say that what I did would cause an accident. I had a hearing on it today and it was a railroad-job. 65 bucks down the drain. Don't they tax us enough??? I now will never make a right on red whether I waited however long they want me to wait or not. I hope this causes a traffic jam too. Will serve them all right
Richard Riccoboni
4:38 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
yes but you must stop for 3 to beat the camera, not 1
Al Smith
8:09 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
www.GPSdetector.com has a good solution available
Al Smith
8:09 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
email me for more details - al@GPSdetector.com
David Klopman
9:57 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
Where's the List?
Kaitlyn Piccoli
10:11 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
David,
If you look in the photos box and click on the "PDFS" that will show you the list of all the cameras currently in Suffolk County.
Here are the four in Commack:
Commack Road & LIE Service Road West (I-495)
Expressway Drive North (I-495) & Commack Road
Jericho Turnpike & Larkfield Road
Jericho Turnpike & Town Line Road
David Klopman
10:32 am on Thursday, March 3, 2011
Thank You Kaitlyn.
Amanda Walsh
8:17 pm on Thursday, March 3, 2011
Sorry, I should probably have clarified that by a "legal right on red" I meant any intersection where a right on red is allowed, and not that it should be legal to make a turn on red without stopping first. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused, readers!
David Klopman
1:16 pm on Wednesday, April 20, 2011
I have sat on Jericho Tpke waiting to make a left onto Larkfield Road and seen the lights flash and cameras go off three or four times in a row and Im sitting there wondering what exactly are they taking pictures of? There was no one going through red lights at this time. I wonder how accurate these red light cameras are? I would fight it if I ever got a ticket. I dont think they are calibrated correctly. Just one mans opinion!
David Siudzinski
1:38 am on Thursday, April 21, 2011
They are actually totally unenforceable and unconstitutional. How can they ever prove you were the one driving? Without a cop as a witness, they can never prove it. Even with a picture, close up of your face, they STILL can't prove it's you, just that it was someone who looks like you.
Presumption of Innocence under the 9th and 14th Amendments, as well as the 5th Amendment supersede any and all traffic laws in any state of the united states. period.
The only reason people pay traffic tickets is because they don't know their rights.
Greg Martinez
10:46 am on Thursday, May 19, 2011
I have never myself received a ticket based on these cameras, however, I do not believe they work properly. Particularly when it comes to right-on-red.
I am opposed to giving tickets based on these cameras. They are a waste of taxpayers money.
Marsha Borgida
9:29 am on Sunday, January 8, 2012
I am livid. I was not all these years that you had to come to a complete stop; okay I learned the hard way after receiving two tickets one more current and the other prior to the first one. Okay I do not make turns on the red anymore at all. Now I get a ticket from from three months prior to the other ones. What's the problem? Now that people are more cautious the county is looking for more revenue and going to search harder for more money. I cannot support the county government any more since they have been irresponsible in their finances! I am a law abiding citizen so how about them becoming honest themselves! I do not believe that after ticketing people they should go back in time and look for more violations to enhance their wealth.