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Commack History: The 1789 Chapel

Commack United Methodist Church's little chapel represents successful restoration in the hamlet.

Located on Town Line Road on the property of the is an unassuming structure called the 1789 Chapel. This simple church building represents the early Methodist presence in the hamlet as well as the church members’ efforts through the centuries to preserve an important piece of local history.

According to An Illustrated History of Commack by Robert Saal, in 1783 Commack resident James Hubbs attended a church in Cow Harbor where John Phillips was preaching and asked him to come to Commack. Phillips was a tailor and preacher from England who remained in the states after the Revolutionary War.

The first Methodist services in the hamlet were held in residents’ homes, and according to the church’s website, the Commack Methodist society was the second to be formed on Long Island. In 1789 Hubbs and other residents built the church that today is the oldest Methodist Church in continuous use in New York. Church historian John Muller said while the chapel isn’t used every Sunday, it is utilized for a service during the Christmas season and also for a summer service.

Muller said only slight alterations have been made to the chapel throughout the centuries. When it was first built there was no heat, and members of the congregation had to bring foot warmers to stay warm. It wasn’t until around 1835 that a chimney was built for a pot belly stove. Muller said the pipes were exposed and ran along the ceiling of the church. The pipes were taken out when a furnace was finally installed in the mid 1920s.

The church’s website lists a few more changes made to the structure that was originally built with a high-box pulpit, one center door and one set of balcony stairs. In the mid 1830s the roof was shingled, the pulpit was lowered and the communion rail was made semi-circular. Two panel entrance doors and two flights of stairs were also added at this time. The pulpit was lowered two more times in 1859 and 1883. And in 1952, the church building was given a new roof and foundation, and floor beams were replaced.

The property surrounding the chapel has undergone some changes as well through the years. Muller said a seminary was built in 1839, and after it was closed in 1844, sold to the Commack school district becoming the North School. In 1889 a parsonage was built, and at one time, barns and sheds that were built in 1895 could be found on the land.

The religious education building was constructed in 1957, and according to the church’s website, the building was expanded in 1961. Today it’s also used for church meetings and a pre-school.

When the new church building was built in the late 1960s, Mueller said the barn no longer existed after being destroyed by a fire, and the parsonage was demolished.

Despite the construction of the new church, the 1789 Chapel remained standing; the members of the church continuing to care for the structure that humbly represents Commack’s past.

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Mike Spinelli May 25, 2013 at 03:55 pm
This Community may finally have a chance for some changes in the way the District is run... God'sRead More speed Jim T. and Steve H..
Retired May 22, 2013 at 01:17 pm
Congrats to Jim and Steve, but most off all congrats to the Commack Community for having the wisdomRead More to elect them.
MJS May 22, 2013 at 10:10 am
Get ready Mary Jo, Dr. James, CTA, and PTA.. Change is Coming!
Laja May 21, 2013 at 09:03 pm
They change the name occasionally but they are and will always be TaxPac
Laja May 21, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Simply stating that you are not aware of who you are supporting is ecactly why the rest of us areRead More relentless in our efforts to keep them out of our community. For the sake of your kids, your property value and future (both near and distant) research this Group. You will be shocked to read the Exact words used by the group you support in TaxPac literature. Then read about the effects of their policies on the communities the infiltrate. And how long it takes these communities to recover once they are all voted out of office.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 04:45 pm
LaJa. First, I don't hide behind initials or some fake name. I can't take you seriously when youRead More won't reveal who you really are. Secondly, I am not part of any group whatsoever. I do not need others telling me how to think. There ARE citizens in this town who are not happy with the current board and their ways, who do not need to be part of an organization of some sort to try and initiate change. Finally, it's funny you accuse me of being a part of something that I don't even know what it is. I've never heard of TaxPac in my life.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 08:18 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. It is all quite sad.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 10:53 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. Now, this morning, I hear that the PTA is telling people that they are opposed to Proposition 2 in order to keep "special interest groups" from taking over. How can parents in this community, whose children are in the system, who want to make positive change for those children, be a "special interest group"? It blows my mind, how in politics, people can twist things so badly to meet their own agendas. It is all quite sad.
Laja May 21, 2013 at 11:12 am
By the way, I am not in any way associated or affiliated with any union... If you and your groupRead More are not affiliated with TaxPac then you should know that the platform Tampellini and Hartman support, along with the sudden urgent need for 2 more board seats, is taken straight from the TaxPac play book. You can agree with them, as that is your right BUT you must also know where their rhetoric originates and educate yourselves as to what TaxPac as a group wants here on Long Island. If the TaxPac agenda was above board and positive for LI communities there would be no need for them to sneak around and attempt to gain entry into communities through back-door maneuvers like the sudden need for 2 more seats...when Fusco couldn't get in last year either..... At least know that you are being played.
Devil's Advocate May 21, 2013 at 10:21 am
No agenda? That's a joke, right? Vote for Behar and Egan. Keep TAXPAC out of Commack.
Concerned Commackian May 21, 2013 at 07:42 am
Steve Hartman is the clear choice over Jarrett Behar. Behar is just another "insider"Read More enamored with that status quo. His wife is a guidance counselor in another district, so it should come as no surprise that he sees nothing broken. Elect a fresh face with valuable community leadeship experience and no agenda. Vote Hartman
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 08:19 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. It is all quite sad.
Commackvoter May 20, 2013 at 10:24 pm
I know what the word increase means! You mentioned it above about insurance rates going up. You seeRead More when a member of the BOE gives his kid a job in the district, then that adult child (24 yrs) takes a 15 yr old student to a hotel for sex and gets arrested, then our insurance company has to pay to settle the lawsuit, dont you think our insurance rates go up John. Sure you dont believe it - Read all about it http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/cops-commack-hs-coach-faces-sex-abuse-charges-1.1711455 Time to break up this 5 member coffee clotch and their you scratch my back I will scratch yours.
John Smith May 20, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Can I ask you an honest question? I hope this doesn't sound to condescending because I really amRead More curious. Do you understand what the word "increase" means?
Judge for your yourself whether these signatures were written by the same person
Mike Spinelli May 25, 2013 at 03:59 pm
Honest Commackian - I know some of the people whose names are on the page from the Petition youRead More posted and they are not happy.... better watch out b/c they are coming after you..but then again its too late to for you to hide..
COM-MOM May 22, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Just asking. Coincidence that your Commack Patch Penn name is LaJa short for Laura James? Anyway,Read More in your infinite wisdom can you please explain why we needed to hire a $106,000 admin. from Center Moriches? Do we not have admins within the Commack School District who are qualified for the position? No one was eligible for a promotion?
Laja May 22, 2013 at 09:51 pm
Well yesterday I was Peter Wunsch so today I guess I can be Dr. James's wife. Any choices forRead More tomorrow?
Concerned Commackian May 20, 2013 at 03:45 pm
Im concerned with the rate of spending increases. You cant talk your way around them no matter howRead More hard you try. And as to this "district has no control" argument, thats a cop out and you know it. While the state tells the district what percentage of salary it must pay into the retirement system, if the district had done a more effective job of limiting the growth in compensation, not only would salary expense been lower, but the amount paid into the retirement system would have been lower as well. And John, care to calculate how much the additional state aid to the district this year lowered the levy? Im sure you dont.
John Smith May 20, 2013 at 02:19 pm
Or you could think about how spending is going up over 4% (the majority of which is fueled by costsRead More that are mandated by law -- Teachers' and Employee's Retirement and Insurance contributions -- over which the School District has no control), but the tax levy is only going up 2.91%, which means the School District -- gasp -- might be doing a good job finding alternative sources of funding other than the taxpayers. Again, look at the info for yourself, not through the eyes of a biased Tampellini/Hartman/Tax Pac supporter.