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School District: 'Marion Carll Farm Belongs to Us, Free of Restrictions'

Commack School District asks court to dismiss the lawsuit brought forth by Marion Carll heirs in March in 24-page response.

Commack school officials have filed a response to lawsuit filed by Marion Carll's heirs over possession of the historic farm, one that could dramatically change its future. 

Superintendent Donald James informed Commack residents the school district filed a response to the , at the June 14 Board of Education meeting. The district has asserted the historic 9-acre farm rightfully belows to the Commack School District, and the restrictive uses placed on the land by Marion Carll's will should be removed. 

"We care about every single person here feels about that property," Board President Mary Jo Masciello said to residents at the board meeting. "But we must do what is legal." 

James read a two-page statement prepared by Commack Board of Education to nearly 100 district residents gathered last Thursday night. It gave a detailed history of the property and stated its response would be available to the public, and its was published on the district's website. 

In the district's 24-page response to the lawsuit, written by attorney Scott Karson of Lamb & Barnosky LLP, school officials fight the Marion Carll heirs' claim that they have failed to maintain the property as a museum and use it for educational purposes:

The District admits that it has at all time acted in good faith and made all reasonable and appropriate efforts to comply with the conditions and restrictions imposed by the Will, the Deed and Correction Deed, and denies that it failed to comply with the conditions and restrictions at all relevant times...

However, the school district admits that various buildings on the "Marion Carll Property" are in disrepair and need of rehabiltation, on page 7, mostly due to its budgetary constraints. 

The district gives a detailed outline the including its effort in 1977 to put aside necessary fund from its yearly operating budget to renovate the barn, which was met with public criticism, and to expand The Hamlet Golf Community in June 2010. 

In defense again the lawsuit, school officials claim that "despite severe economic limitations faced by the District, it has, for more than 40 years, tirelessly endeavored in good faith to comply with the conditios prescribed by the Will, the Dead and the Correction Dead, and has done so to the best of its ability."

Commack School District argues because it did not fail to carry out Marion Carll's Will to the best of its ability, the will's clause that would revert the property to the heirs does not apply.

The district also makes an affirmative defense of keeping Marion Carll Farm, claiming New York State Supreme Court can remove the restrictive uses imposed on the land and more than two years have passed since the clause in Marion Carll's Will that would allow the land to revert to the heirs expired. 

The district asked the courts to dismiss the heirs' lawsuit. 

In addition, it said a judge should decide the property belongs to Commack School District and should be free from the restrictions in Marion Carll's will, which mandated the land be used for the public and educational purposes. 

The district's request to be rid of the restrict use of the land, on page 21 of their response, reads: 

Accordingly, the Court should render a judgement pursuant to section 1955 of the Real Property Actions & Proceeding Law discharging the restriction in its entirety and authorizing the District to convey, lease, mortgage or otherwise dispose of the poerpty free of the restriction, and that the purchaser under such disposition shall take free of the restriction, as well. 

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Commackvoter May 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
Yes John Smith, agree that the PTA SHOULD have video taped and posted it somewhere for the communityRead More to view. This is the 21st century and there is no excuse for them not offering this for those who could not attend. Same goes for the CUFSD but at least the law prohibits them from banning taping public meetings.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 08:45 am
Hey John - No one is being slick. You incorrectly assumed that it was suspicious that there was noRead More video tape of the meet the candidates night. I can understand why you would think that but the fact is that the PTA did not allow any video. I wish video could have been done so the community could have seen each candidate themselves and make their own assessment. If you don't believe what I say just contact the PTA and confirm it with them....
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 09:52 am
@RL - I agree with term limits, but the law says that can only be proposed by the Board. The publicRead More cannot submit such a proposition. The board, at least the current one, will never agree to that b/c they want to keep themselves in power at any cost. By adding 2 new people Prop 2 may a provide an opportunity to have people on aboard that will consider proposing term limits, as well as other changes. So, yet another reason to Vote YES to Prop 2.
RL May 17, 2013 at 08:08 am
I agree new blood can be used and some new thinking and the way to accomplish that is to vote newRead More faces in. Does having more people create a larger bureaucracy thought. Having served on a number of private, charity and corporate boards I can tell you more is not always the answer. I think term limits would be a better approach. This way you don't have the same though process year after year. Two terms six years seems reasonably to me.
Concerned Commackian May 18, 2013 at 09:18 pm
Commack Parent is right. Its definately a costRead More issue.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! Thanks Parent, that was the best chuckle ive had all day!
LINANA May 17, 2013 at 12:28 am
Since past precedence for a number of years has been to send out literature informing ALL residentsRead More (including those with no children in the schools) of candidates bios, does the omission of the bios raise a legal issue? ??? We all pay school taxes and district has the obligation to provide us with this info. Shame on them!!!! Teacher's union is also "encouraging" votes for Egan & Behar and against adding two additional seats to the board. People with a vested interest "encouraging" you to vote a particular way should raise flags!!! Hopefully people will think for themselves and make an informed vote for the candidate they feel will best represent the students & residents of Commack.
Janice May 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm
IT does raise a red flag! I think it IS definitely time to vote for some new folks. I am going toRead More check out Hartman and Tampellini's bios. If I like what I see, I am voting for change
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 15, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Doing my best. Please spread the word. Thanks!
GM May 15, 2013 at 08:30 pm
You go Girl! Spread the word. It's less than a week until we vote and you can quickly educate usingRead More social media.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
ergodic May 16, 2013 at 11:09 am
Hey, PTA, BOE/// try lending a hand///don't criticize things you don't understand///the community isRead More clearly beyond your command///your 100 year road is rapidly aging///and, the times, they are changing. CUFSD has experienced a decline in total enrollment from a peak of 7830 in 2008-09 to 6934 (projected) in 2013-14, a decrease of 11.4%. During that period, spending per pupil increased from $19,759 to $25,871 - an increase of 30.9%. This performance does not reflect well on the financial management capabilities of the BOE. And, is it a surprise that NYSUT is an advocate for the status quo? A more democratic approach to decision-making via a vote for Prop 2 should be helpful.
re May 16, 2013 at 12:01 am
Vote yes for the additional members of the board. Save our schools. Save our schools with fairRead More representation. Join a new taxpayers representation committee at the Commack community assoc effective September 2013. Our next meeting is May 30 at 7pm at the Bristol assisted living community room( next to sears) Do not let this civic group wither away as it would be a victory for the school board that monitors any opposition to the way the district operates.