State Bans Bath Salts, Synthetic Drugs

Legislation comes in the wake of movement on Suffolk County, federal levels to outlaw "serious threat to public health."

Following Suffolk County's  – and just over a month after a – New York State this week outlawed the sale and possession of bath salts and synthetic drugs.

"Bath salts and other synthetic drugs pose a direct, serious threat to public health and safety, and we must do everything we can to remove these harmful substances from sale and distribution in New York," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a statement.

Synthetic drugs are slightly altered in their chemical compounds to avoid outlaw under existing drug laws. The products are then marketed under various names. Synthetic cocaine, according to Cuomo's office, has been dubbed White Lightning, Tranquility, Zoom, and other names. Designer marijuana as Spice, K2, and Blaze.

While similar, the altered drugs themselves can be just as - if not more - dangerous than the real thing, officials say.

Cuomo's office cited data from the New York State Poison Control Center: in 2010, there were 20 calls concerning synthetic marijuana poisonings. There were 291 in 2011, and 321 through the first six months of 2012.

Violators will face fines up to $500 and up to 15 days in jail for either distributing or possessing the illicit drugs. Civil penalties could result in fines up to $2,000.

President Barack Obama signed a ban on bath salts in July. However, the state legislation will enable New York State authorities to pursue violators.

Victoria August 09, 2012 at 05:00 PM
To those who say marijuana is not as addictive, you are wrong, this drug almost destroyed my son and almost destroyed my entire family. What makes it worse is the attitude that so many people have. I know families that leave their son's bong in the house, another that lets their son and his friends get stoned in their backyard. These are the idiots that I have had to compete with as a mother trying to get my son off of this crap. It's dangerous and you are a fool if you don't think so.
John Gruber August 09, 2012 at 05:22 PM
First off I am sorry about your son, my family to has been affected negatively by drugs, in fact we probably all know someone who has been affected by drugs. But of all the legal drugs out there it has been proven that cannabis carries the least likelihood, meaning its possible, not probable, for addiction, but that's not to say some people can't become addicted. It's the fact that alcohol and cigs are thousands of times over more harmful and addictive yet are still regulated and sold
Victoria August 09, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Thank you. I don't disagree with what your saying about alcohol, but people have an unrealistic idea of pot. People will get addicted, maybe not all, but if it's available even more than it is now, the number of people it affects will grow.
John Gruber August 09, 2012 at 05:31 PM
that;s the thing, cannabis is said, and I'm pretty sure proven in a number of studies that it's no worse than what's already legal and in fact may carry less risks than what's already out there. The problem with medical marijuana is that it's basically a joke. While there deffinately are people out there who can benefit from its qualities, so many people just abuse. I'm also not sure how you can make the inference that it's more potent today than the past unless you've smoked 30 years ago and I would think the hippies had better stuff than what's out there now. that's also another pro of regulation, you know fairly well what you're selling, not like some kid who's dealing on the corner
John Gruber August 09, 2012 at 05:40 PM
totally agree, i do think people feel like its this wonderful drug that has no negative side affects on you and more people might become users. I just think that if it's regulated with laws like alcohol, it would reduce the number of drug dealers on the street and therefor crime as well as teaching people responsibility that like with alcohol its socially ok to consume responsibly, because I feel you could say that about any drug, you know? especially alcohol
K. August 09, 2012 at 06:21 PM
One child will spin around in circles, get dizzy and sick and hate it. A second child will spin around in circles, get dizzy and sick and love it. Some individuals will seek out "feeling differently" despite laws or consequences; of those, some can be helped out of it and some can't or won't.
Jaguar-Guy August 09, 2012 at 06:50 PM
At least there would be some - dare I write "regulation" - of the "medicine". It does make it harder to obtain it - I believe, since there will likely be less smuggling (since growing locally to sell locally will be legalized), and that WILL put most of the, then illegal, drug dealers (foreign and domestic) out of business - as you wrote that you want John.
Jaguar-Guy August 09, 2012 at 06:52 PM
I truly feel for you Victoria, and hope things can get better for all of you.
Victoria August 09, 2012 at 06:54 PM
Well, my child was the one that went in circles, got sick and loved it. But he's my son, and I love him. Now what? I don't think making it more available will help. Maybe, one of those children, won't have the opportunity to get dizzy and love it.
K. August 09, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Victoria, I wish all the best for your son and for you! I am NOT in favor of these types of "drugs" - or of any illegal drugs. I was trying to say (I guess it came out wrong) that unfortunately, some will do or try anything out of curiosity or, later desperation, despite resritctions. Making it easier with these substances does not help, but there is always a supply of "something" for a perceived need. There is help available for your son, and it can work "miracles".
Victoria August 09, 2012 at 07:25 PM
K, what you said didn't come out wrong at all, you are absolutely correct. I also know that not everyone falls like my son did. I appreciate your best wishes and fyi, he is in a rehab as we speak, so for now, he's safe.
ViralGrain August 09, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Pot should be legal. If someone wants to smoke then let them. If an employee has a policy against their employee from smoking pot then they should be able to enforce it. Pot is addictive. But so is chewing you finger nails. I've never heard of anyone killing or robbing someone to get stoned. I never heard of anyone coming home and beating the wife and kids cause they were out smoking a joint. Alcohol attacks every organ in the body. In places that pot is legal such as Amsterdam, the local population hardly ever smoke pot. Ask anyone who lives or lived there and they will tell you there are never any fights or disturbances at the cafe's that serve pot, but only at the venues where there is alcohol. I feel that all drugs are bad to a degree and to much of anything can be bad, but some drugs are worse then others. The image that pot is a gateway drug and worse then alcohol is nonsense. Just because I chose not to smoke pot doesn't mean that I shouldn't be able to if I wanted to. Live and let live people. http://www.420magazine.com/forums/celebrity-tokers/87813-200-celebrities-famous-people-who-smoke-pot.html
Victoria August 09, 2012 at 07:56 PM
That said, just because you never heard of someone who smokes pot coming home and beating their wife and kids, doesn't mean it hasn't happened, and just because you haven't heard of anyone who gets stoned and robs every piece of jewelry you own, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You just haven't heard about it, but of course you don't have to believe me. I hope you don't choose to smoke pot. I hope you don't choose to do anything that could harm yourself.
ViralGrain August 09, 2012 at 08:47 PM
The only thing that pot harms is a bag of potato chips. At my age and in my carrer path I have seen some of the worst areas this country and several other counties have to offer and pot does nothing other then create a black market for criminals to make money. And its a big problem. I've never had to wrestle a pothead to the ground to stop him from literally beating the hell out of them self, or seen a girl turn prostitute to maintain their pot addiction. I never saw a pot head do any of the evils that I've seen people commit while on other substances including alcohol. No matter what side of the fence you are on, on this subject I strongly suggest you watch this movie/documentary. Then lets talk. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1033467/
North Fork Bob August 09, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Alcohol is a gateway drug.How many people does it kill every year from various causes? How many are hopelessly addicted? How about marijuana? Zero and zero. How many smoke it in this Country? Millions from all ages.You can't legislate morality.
Victoria August 09, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Well, I haven't had your travel experiences. I'm sure you've seen plenty. But I can tell you from my extremely modest home in good ole Commack, my son was harmed by pot. I do not disagree with your comments with regard to alcohol, I'm just commenting on what I know and what I have been living through.
Tom Dewick August 09, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Haha! You are seriously misinformed. They are not bath salts that people use in the bath tub. They are designer drugs that look like bath salts, hence the name.
Tom Dewick August 09, 2012 at 09:21 PM
@John Gruber Obviously you have enjoyed the effect of weed.
Boating Friend August 09, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Victoria, I hate to break it to you but pot didn't harm your son. Pot is an inanimate, naturally occuring plant species. Your son harmed himself. Unless his bong held him down and lit itself, of course.
Jaguar-Guy August 09, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Man, stole and sold your jewelery too. Man, just an addiction to pot did that ?? Sorry again.
John Gruber August 09, 2012 at 10:57 PM
I tried it a couple of times personally was not a fan, I'm perfectly fine with a beer wile watching the yankee game and think that if someone prefers a joint who am I to tell them they're wrong and find it severely hypocritical. I'm sure you've enjoyed the effect of alcohol? what would be the difference?
ViralGrain August 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM
You know boating friend thats a real unfair shallow comment. The thing is, because pot is illegal and frowned upon by some, it creates an attitude where one must learn to hide. Hide their weed. Hide that their stoned. Hide growing it or buying it on the street. Its that attitude of having to sneak about that I believe transcends to other areas in life. In essence, because it is illegal and is scrutinized by some, it teaches the individual to be a sneak. I'm sure that if it was made legal and more excepted by society like beer and wine is, individuals who decide to smoke pot would not be likely to practice deceit as much. There are so many substances more physically and psychologically harmful then pot, but the gov. can tax and control those substances since you can grow them your self like you can with pot.
Boating Friend August 10, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Its early, but I've read this post about 10x and I cannot figure out what you are trying to say. You're probably right. The pot did harm her son. Off to cheat on my wife, which is frowned upon by some and I have to hide it. If I get caught, I'll just tell my wife that the cheating harmed her and it wasn't me. Hopefully they will legalize it so I don't have to sneak around so much.
ViralGrain August 10, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Thats a good one. You should do that. She probably doesn't deserve you anyway. At least you don't hide the fact your a moron.
Boating Friend August 10, 2012 at 01:25 PM
It is actually "you're a moron" or "you are a moron'', If you are going to call me a moron at least get it right so I don't have to correct your grammar. It will make it hard for people to agree that I'm, in fact, the moron.
Boating Friend August 10, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Hey wait a New York second!! Does this sound familiar: "The only thing that pot harms is a bag of potato chips." The 2 faces of ViralGrain?
North Fork Bob August 10, 2012 at 01:33 PM
You are a moron
John Gruber August 10, 2012 at 01:43 PM
you can't just ban everything because there are things out there that have legitimate purposes that people use to get high (paint, markers, nail polish remover etc) and people will continue to find ridiculous news ways to get high
John Gruber August 10, 2012 at 01:51 PM
I wouldn't know I've never seen them or even attempted to care about what people use to get high, and I wouldn't be surprised if people used their own bath salts, I personally believe anyone who is dumb enough to do this garbage is just exemplifying Darwinism at its finest.
Boating Friend August 10, 2012 at 02:31 PM
I am rubber and you are glue, what you say bounced off of me and sticks to you.


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