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UPDATE: Police Identify Commack Man Killed in Motor Parkway Accident

Abraham Sparber, 90, was killed when his car was t-boned by a white box truck on Vanderbilt Motor Parkway on Tuesday morning.

Update, 4:20 p.m.

Suffolk County police have identified Commack resident Abraham Sparber, 90, as the man killed in a two-car crash on Vanderbilt Motor Parkway Tuesday morning.

Police said Patrick Williams, 46, was driving a 2003 box truck westbound on Motor Parkway when his vehicle struck a 2010 Hyundai driven by Sparber, who was attempting to make a left turn out of a parking lot onto eastbound Motor Parkway.

Sparber was transported to Good Samaritan Hospital Medical Center in West Islip where he was declared dead, according to police.

Williams was not injured in the crash.

Detectives are asking anyone who may information on the crash to call 631-854-8452.

 

Original story with update at 1:10 p.m.:

A fatal accident in front of the former Waldbaum's has closed down Vanderbilt Motor Parkway in Commack.

A silver Hyundai Elantra was t-boned on the driver's side door was by a white box truck near the Commack Road and Vanderbilt Motor Parkway intersection in Commack at approximately 9:30 a.m Tuesday.

Suffolk County police called for a helicopter to airlift one person to a local hospital, according to early reports, which was then canceled as the drive was transported via ambulance. The transported person was declared dead at the hospital, according to police.

Police shut down Vanderbilt Motor Parkway eastbound between Commack Road and Harned Road, with limited traffic westbound to conduct an investigation. The scene of the crash has been taped off as a crime scene.

Two Suffolk County Crime Scene units were called to the scene. Police were taking photographs of the accident and searching for any possible eye witnesses.

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DCohen October 9, 2012 at 12:14 am
There were many factors that made this accident happen. The public was NEVER alerted to them. His time was up.
DCohen October 9, 2012 at 12:17 am
If you don't know the person/people involved in a fatal accident, you shouldn't be commenting negatively on their ability. You are dead wrong with Mr Sparber. I know him personally and his family would have never let him drive if he wasn't able to.
Jill October 9, 2012 at 02:40 am
I agree with everything you have said. Living near him and seeing him so active and driving I would never have questioned his ability to drive. People love to jump to conclusions. Seems like Commack is growing with all these stores yet we are not changing our roads. There was a death by Shinebone Lane on Vanderbilt this year. It is scary how dangerous it is and there is going to be a Gourmet Super Market in the Walbaums spot this 2013. I am all for that store being filled but imagine the traffic that will cause. I already sent an email to the Town of Smithtown regarding the need for some changes and plan to follow up with this issue.
traffic@tosgov.com Smithtown Highway Department 758 Smithtown By-Pass (Route 347) Smithtown, NY 11787-5023 Tel (631) 360-7500 Fax (631) 360-7510
DSparber October 10, 2012 at 02:31 am
Jill, I'm one of his daughters.
pbug56 October 10, 2012 at 03:13 am
Our condolences to you and your family. And our note that we've been in and out of these 2 lots many times and know how horrific the traffic safety situation is in the lots (especially near McD), and getting in and out of the lots in any direction. Crazy by day, confusing and crazy at night.
Jill October 11, 2012 at 03:13 am
DSparber...My thoughts & prayers are with you all. If you need anything just let us know.
DSparber October 11, 2012 at 07:47 pm
Thank you Jill. My dad was a very special man. This is going to be very difficult to live with.
LINANA October 20, 2012 at 05:43 am
Rather than bash more mature drivers, look at all the accidents involving young, inexperienced drivers. Many people today at 70 yrs old are in great shape and probably better drivers than teens. Where in our area could they live that they can walk to doctors, stores, recreational activities, transportation, etc.? There's no place in our area where this is possible. Guess YOU should move into an assisted living facility or to NYC John Gruber because otherwise there's no place for you in our community. If you don't feel you can drive, then maybe you should voluntarily give up YOUR license to protect others. Sometimes a person is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. My condolenses to the Sparber family.
rf October 21, 2012 at 12:23 am
I'm more scared of the soccer moms getting their offspring to their multi million dollar games on the cell phones than the elderly.
LINANA October 21, 2012 at 04:43 am
I agree with rf!!! I wish the police would crack down on all the people talking on their hand held cell phones and those texting while driving. Occasionally they look up to see what's going on in the road!!! I was almost run over by someone dialing their phone at the same time they were backing out of a parking spot. She didn't even look at she was backing out. Luckily I ran to avoid getting hit--never dawned on me that a person would back out without even looking.
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 01:36 pm
settle down there. Hey, if you think people who are 80-90 should be driving when it's a FACT they don't have the same reaction time, coordination or decision making skills you're only making the world more dangerous. There's no reason for ANY 90 year old to be driving, period.
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 01:41 pm
no my life is fine, and that's the point, I'd like to keep it that way. You think it's completely fine with letting people who have deteriorating vision, reflexes and driving skills to operate a multi-ton vehicle that has the potential to end lives? yea, you're REAL smart
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 01:44 pm
so the driving accident had nothing to do with his driving? interesting, if the truck wasn't speeding and he was turning, how exactly did his driving have nothing to do with the accident?
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 01:47 pm
ha those soccer moms pulling into starbucks in their friggin huge SUVS while talking on the phone....angers me almost as badly as letting someone who's losing vision, reflexes and coordination driving a vehicle
LINANA October 21, 2012 at 01:55 pm
I hope that you (John Gruber) are no longer driving since you openly admitted that you do not have the skills to do so. Speak for yourself--not everyone. I worry more about the inexperienced young teenage drivers who feel they are immortal and know everything and the people who are talking on cell phones and texting while driving who definitely do not know what is going on in the road.
Unfortunately without a car on LI (due to poor public transportation systems) one cannot survive living an independent life. Would be nice to have planned communities where cars are not necessary, but it doesn't exist here.
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 02:29 pm
actually I was referring to when I'm eventually 60 or 70, and yes, I'll be able to admit to myself that when my driving becomes a hazard to the people around me it's time to hang up the keys. and yes it's very difficult to get around without a car, that still doesn't mean we risk people's lives for mere convenience
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 04:15 pm
I didn't say the truck was "speeding" or not, I said he simply could have misjudged how fast it was going and thought he had more time than he did. Perception and coordination, two of the many things you lose as you get older
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 04:32 pm
ok well, not only am I not even 45, I have never even been involved in any type of accident worse than a fender bender so your argument doesn't really hold up. And when I reach a certain age where my driving poses a risk to others I'll acknowledge I simply can't justify putting people's lives at risk. So your plan is to let people drive who shouldn't be driving and putting other people's lives a risk simply because the other options are limited? That sounds A LOT better. If you think a 70 year old has the same driving abilities as a 25 or 30 year old you're sadly mistaken. And the biggest problem for teens is inexperience which improves with, well, experience, NOT reflexes, coordination, and snap-decision making skills which, is PROVEN FACT, deteriorates with age. Not only that, there's a MUCH HIGHER chance of seniors being killed in car accidents than any other age group, meaning they're putting themselves as well at increased risk of serous harm
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 04:35 pm
and this guy wasn't even 70 he was a full 20 years older
LINANA October 21, 2012 at 08:54 pm
John you continue to twist what anyone here says. YOU were the one saying that YOU didn't have the same ability as when you were younger--so give up YOUR license!. People get hurt in fender benders also. I'm closer to 70 and I have NEVER hit another car!!! Not even a fender bender. There are MANY people who should not be driving at any age--yes, age may have an impact on responses, but many people are just horrible drivers and distracted by cell phones, texting, kids in cars, etc. Saying teens are inexperienced and it improves with experience does not help a family who loses a loved one because a teenager killed their family member. Teens have poor judgment, think nothing can happen to them, speed, etc. but it's okay by you to let them drive (and possibly kill someone) so they gain experience? There is a VERY high incidence of teen drivers getting into accidents. Parents need to accompany their teenagers after they get their license so they get more experience rather than just give them the keys to a car so they don't have to drive them around anymore. As we all know a car is a weapon and many people are killed by inexperienced drivers. I don't know where you get all your PROVEN FACTS from, but check statistics on teen drivers. This man made a poor judgment call, just as you did when you had your fender bender!!!
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 10:58 pm
of course there's a lot incidents involving teens, because they've been driving for less time. Regardless of what the minimum age is to drive, the people who just start driving are more likely going to be involved in more accidents than someone who's been driving for 10 years, you can't dispute that, regardless if the age is 16 or 20, you have to start learning at some point. And what you described does not constitute the majority of teens, some yes, some don't. So you're plan is to not allow teenagers to drive at all? Even with parents in the car accidents happen, the only way for an experienced driver to get better is through experience, whether the parent is there or not. There's little to nothing you can do about worsening eyesight, perception and coordination. And the fact that you expect the majority people in their 70s 80s and 90s to have the same skills they did 30 or 40 years ago is dangerous. There's nothing you can do about inexperienced drivers other than practice, which requires driving a car and at some point they have to do it by themselves
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 11:04 pm
"Layoff the old timers, you will be in those shoes someday and will be whining like a baby that someone wants to pull your license or prove you can drive." steve
the comment you're referring to was a response to this statement, I said I would not care IF all those things were true
Jill October 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Ok- When did 60-70 year olds become too old to drive John Gruber? I don't get your rationale on this one. I can maybe understand your arguement if the driver is 80-90 and not capable of this but my parents are in their late 60s. My mom runs an office center and very capable. You are making it sound like that age group should be in a nursing home. I just don't get it. Do some research and you will see the percentage of car accidents are not caused by the eldery. Aggressive, distraction, weather, drinking, drugs, drowsiness, cell phone use, speed, driver carelessness, speed all are more common than the eldery in causes of accidents. There are ways to prove this point by the statistics...Check some out.
John Gruber October 21, 2012 at 11:15 pm
I wasn't saying 60 to 70 years shouldn't necessarily be driving, I'm sure you're parents are perfectly ok, my grandfather drove till the day he died at 81 and didn't get into an accident for the last 25 years of his life, although I always kind of worried when he did drive. I'm saying that it is proven fact the body's mental and physical abilities decrease over time, meaning it has less coordination, reflexes, judgement and vision all of which is required to a fairly big extent while driving. I'm saying at a certain age, people should be required to prove they can still operate a potentially deadly vehicle at a reasonable level both for their own and others' safety, it's not they're fault or anything, it's biology.
Jill October 21, 2012 at 11:27 pm
John, I get your arguement about reflexes and biology however, there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to irresponsible drivers. At least most elders who make it around to 80-90 probably have family that will take into consideration if that person should be driving or not. Doctors can also make that judgement call and take away their ability to drive. Granted some out there will drive anyway regardless of what anyone says but being that I knew who Abe was and his abilities I will vouche he was not bad at driving. His family has stated that they watched his abilities. I saw the guy almost daily and he was with it. As with many accidents there are multiple factors involved that you and I probably don't know all about. I don't disagree with you on the testing but I have to say once again that in the big picture these elders you are concerned about are not as many in numbers as the other people out there that should not be driving. Maybe we should test everyone every 5 years. Who is to say that you at 45 is all there or me at 39 does not have an issue. I know the teenagers out there are a bigger threat to me than that 90 yr old driving a few miles once a day if that while staying close to their home. I fear those speeding, texting kids a lot more than Grandpa.
DSparber October 22, 2012 at 12:16 am
D Cohen to John Gruber
I normally would not respond to an ignorant human being such as yourself but...yup, I am right, you're not worth it.
DSparber October 22, 2012 at 12:31 am
Thank you Linana.
LINANA October 22, 2012 at 12:47 am
John Gruber TWISTING things said ==again. INEXPERIENCE at the wheel is just as bad, if not worse, than advancing age when it comes to driving. Yes, practice makes a better driver. Parents need to be parents and when a child gets their license their parents should still accompany them in the beginning until they feel confident that their child has enough actual driving experience and maturity to drive alone. The requirements of driver education programs is minimal at best. That's how an inexperienced driver should gain experience--NOT driving alone in a car with radios blasting & friends in the car, etc. If you compare teens to more mature drivers, which group wears seat belts, speed, drive drunk, under the influence of non prescribed medications, tired, etc.? Contrary to what you think, most families do monitor their parents driving and do take away the keys if needed. Doctors also monitor this. I've been on both ends of the spectrum--having to deal with elderly in laws and as the parent of teenagers. Insurance rates are extremely high for young drivers for a reason--it's based on statistical analysis.
DSparber October 22, 2012 at 03:37 am
No one will ever know if Mr. Sparber made a poor judgement call. I was able to get much more information about the accident and since there were many variables that caused the accident I will never know what actually happened. The police don't even know what happened.
John Gruber October 22, 2012 at 01:35 pm
I honestly wouldn't have a problem with being tested every 5 years, the only problem is those with the license who aren't good drivers can pass the test and still not be good drivers, for example the teenagers aren't gonna be texting during their test, but could be when actually out on the road. teenagers and seniors are the worst driving groups statistically speaking in terms of accidents and fatalities, that's not really a surprise though so I guess it depends on your personnel experience and opinion

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