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Shell Casing Found at Commack Middle School

A student discovered the empty ammunition cartridge in the building hallway Wednesday morning.

Commack Middle School. Patch file photo.
Commack Middle School. Patch file photo.

Security was on high alert Wednesday at Commack Middle School after a student found an empty ammunition shell casing in the building's hallway that morning.

According to a district alert, all entrances to the building were locked and Suffolk County Police were immediately notified.

"The building administration, central office administration, and security personnel all worked with the Suffolk County Police Department, reviewing security footage and conducting locker searches and interviews," the district wrote on its website.

District officials said that they are continuing to work with police to keep students and staff safe.

Diane Kraut December 04, 2013 at 07:13 PM
And why am I finding out about this via Facebook on Commack Patch rather than through a district notification???
Jay December 04, 2013 at 07:51 PM
Because you no longer have children in the Middle School - as a Commack Middle School parent, I received an email notification.
Marianne Nessmiller Van Cott December 04, 2013 at 08:27 PM
I agree that whole district should be notified.
chefcristo December 04, 2013 at 09:08 PM
WE ARE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS; REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS, WE MUST BE KEPT INFORMED BY THE DISTRICT OF ANY AND ALL SCHOOL NEWS, ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE THIS, OF SUCH SEVERE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES.
Greg Martinez December 04, 2013 at 09:16 PM
So tell me, does the School district get as concerned when a condom or syringe is found? Those items are actually harmful to kids. An empty shell casing is completely harmless.
GLENN December 04, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Oh such drama, I can only imagine the adrenaline junkies going into to lock down. Nanny state 101.
Elisa Joy December 04, 2013 at 11:46 PM
I have a middle school child and was not notified although I agree the casing is not harmful itself, it doesn't belong in the school and the school needed to delve deeper to ensure it was not anything to be concerned with
Steven K December 05, 2013 at 07:14 AM
So, a little piece of empty brass was found in the hallway. Agreed, things need to be checked out, like a walk around the building. Lockdown, calling the police etc is a little extreme. I would be more concerned if that found a pencil or fork in the hallway because those items could do more harm than a piece if brass.
Steven K December 05, 2013 at 07:19 AM
Also, the email thanked the school security, some of whom are ex police officers. Question, what is an unarmed ex police officer with whatever training going to do against an armed criminal?
Gigi December 05, 2013 at 07:20 AM
Air soft guns use pellets - they do not have cartridges/casings.
Randy December 05, 2013 at 08:26 AM
Two things to think about... One, the retired police that are school security are not allowed to carry their firearms because the school district will not allow them to carry them. Mostly because the parents don't want their precious children to be traumatized by the sight of a gun. When my kids are old enough to be in the school system I would hope by then the district would realize that hiring retired police as security is pointless unless they are allowed to carry their firearms. Concealed or not. Two, did anyone ever consider the fact that maybe one of these kids may have gone shooting legally at a range with a responsible adult and picked up one of the shell casings because they thought it was cool and wanted to show theirs buddies. Then they either dropped it or got scared that they had it and tried to get rid of it. If I were the school administrators I would focus my attention on the drugs and alcohol problem and concentrate my efforts on paying attention to trends that may indicate a potential act of violence that could occur rather than freaking out over a spent shell casing that is god only knows how old. Just my opinion. And we know what they say about opinions.
Randy December 05, 2013 at 08:49 AM
An air soft cartridge or magazine looks NOTHING like a brass shell casing from a bullet.
Tony Patrick December 05, 2013 at 09:05 AM
now they made a big deal out of it, every kid is going to drop spent casings to disrupt the school day. while it is harmless, it was not reason to stop the entire day. when i was a teacher, one kid did a bomb threat, and then for weeks more bomb threats were called in to disrupt the day. dropping a spent casing is even easier and reduces the chances of getting caught. schools are going too crazy over these things, the more fuss they make, the more its going to happen.
bumpkin December 05, 2013 at 09:06 AM
Remember, the patch wants everyone to share their critical thinking on the issue.
Randy December 05, 2013 at 09:22 AM
Bumpkin you're sarcasm suggests that your one of the regulars on here that just prefers to go back and forth with pointless jabs and banter rather than contribute a thoughtful response that may lead to a meaningful dialogue. If I'm incorrect... Please accept my apologies.
knee jerk December 05, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Randy: Your yours are dyslectic, (just another regular on here who gets a kick out pointless jabs).
chefcristo December 05, 2013 at 01:46 PM
respectfully, to most of the above commenters: NOTHING, NOTHING THESE DAYS SHOULD BE LEFT TO CHANCE, TO WIT: ALL PRIOR SHOOTINGS AND THREATS IN SCHOOLS AND OTHER "SAFE" PLACES. A HARMLESS, EMPTY SHELL.........YES, CAUSE FOR THE UTMOST CONCERN. LIVES ARE AT STAKE HERE. PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR STANDS ON THIS MATTER.
Randy December 05, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Sorry knee jerk. Typing on an iPhone. Good to see you're paying attention.
Randy December 05, 2013 at 01:51 PM
Chefcristo. It's not the fact that a shell casing was found that is harmless. It's the shell casing itself. If were fired from a gun in the school then I'm sure someone would have known. If not then I would have been more than appropriate to search each and every locker and student book bag. The schools have the power to do that.
Steven K December 05, 2013 at 02:52 PM
chefcristo. With all due respect, you and anyone else that thinks a spent shell casing on its own is cause for "utmost concern" must get over an irrational fear of firearms. I know it is tough in this progressive state, but you must try your best. I think there is more danger in a pencil being found on the ground in the hallway.
chefcristo December 05, 2013 at 08:30 PM
steven k, i don't think the essence of your response would be easily accepted by a TSA inspector. we may be overreacting about our points of view, but i'd rather err in the matter of safety than be sorry later that i didn't.
Amy Waldhauer December 09, 2013 at 09:08 AM
Possible scenario: Some kid went to the rifle range with his uncle where he was taught the proper way to shoot. As a souvenir he picked up a brass shell casing. Later, when his friend said, "Quick! Let me borrow your eraser." the boy accidentally pulled out the shell casing with the eraser. The shell casing dropped on the floor unnoticed because of the ruckus of changing classes. Now the poor kid can't get the shell casing back because he will be expelled for bringing ammo to school if he admits it's his. Too bad we have zero tolerance. If we would let the school have discretion in how they handle these cases the kid would get his shell casing back and the school could focus on teaching rather than policing.
knee jerk December 09, 2013 at 06:25 PM
Amy: Isn't "zero tolerance" a school policy, put in place so the school administrators can just expel any student not towing their mark? It looks like Commack already has that discretion and has taken the cowardly way out.

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