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Proposed Hess Station Sparks Controversy - Again

Safety concerns expressed over proposed station at intersection of Jericho Turnpike and Harned Road.

For a second time, the is seeking a zoning change that would allow for a gas station with a convenience store at the corner of a five-way intersection on Jericho Turnpike, and the idea is being met with opposition amid traffic and safety concerns.

"The location is a high-volume traffic location, with very complicated traffic movements," said Frank DeRubeis, director of Smithtown's Planning Department. He said his department recommended against a similar proposal brought before the town two years ago.

That one was denied, and while the new site plan includes "some adjustments," DeRubeis said the "significant questions" remain.

He said the issue is not whether a new station would generate more traffic, but how it would affect existing traffic patterns at the site, which has vehicles entering the intersection from two directions each on Jericho Turnpike and Harned Road as well as an exit ramp from the northbound lanes of the Sunken Meadow Parkway.

DeRubeis said that while the first proposal was opposed by the town planning board, whose members are appointed by the town board, the current site plan is being endorsed by that group. He said much of the discussion has been about addressing the , which has been a shuttered former Shell station for many years.

The site's current zoning would allow for another gas station, but not one which includes a convenience store. Hess is asking to change that.

"The best use would be an office building," DeRubeis said. "The worst use is a high traffic generator."

Other groups have come out in opposition to the move, including the Long Island Gasoline Retailers Association and the Commack Community Association.

Rudy Massa has owned , operated in partnership with Gulf, for 40 years. The proposed Hess site is a few hundred yards west of him on Jericho Turnpike. He said it isn’t the potential competition that has him opposed, but the traffic concerns.

“They opened up down the street here and nobody squawked,” he said, referring to the Hess Express and station which opened less than a mile east on Jericho in October. “They had a right to do it. But they want to change a zone here.”

He said the possible impact worries him as a member of the community whose grandchildren drive in the area.

Massa said he is also worried what another Hess station – which are all corporate-owned and have more locations in Smithtown than any other brand – would mean for the other local gas station owners in the immediate area. Another Hess station sits a bit further west on Jericho. He doesn’t see the need for a third in between, and expressed doubts about approaching the issue as a fix for blight, considering the independently-owned stations nearby who survive without a corporate safety net.

“The Shell has already been hurt. The Pit Stop has been hurt. The Sunoco is already up for sale,” Massa said. “You correct one blight and you could potentially have three more blights, because if they come in and draw more business they’re going to put these other guys out of business.”

He noted the action taken over a similar situation at the intersection of the Vanderbilt Motor Parkway and Commack Road, where a run-down former gas station across from the was demolished and the property landscaped.

A public hearing will be held on the issue at the town board’s February 16 meeting.

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Devil's Advocate May 20, 2013 at 08:20 am
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John Smith May 20, 2013 at 08:06 am
Also note that it says: "Baldwin and Sachem, two districts facing big tax increases next year,Read More both say they've drained reserves and now need to rebuild." Baldwin is looking at 7% tax levy increase this year and Sachem is looking at 7.49%. If you want to spend down the reserves, that's the future you are buying.
John Smith May 20, 2013 at 08:04 am
Also, here's the link to the article for those that don't want just the biased TaxRead More Pac/Tampellini/Hartman slant: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/at-school-vote-time-some-taxpayers-eye-reserves-1.5271197
Commackvoter May 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
Yes John Smith, agree that the PTA SHOULD have video taped and posted it somewhere for the communityRead More to view. This is the 21st century and there is no excuse for them not offering this for those who could not attend. Same goes for the CUFSD but at least the law prohibits them from banning taping public meetings.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 08:45 am
Hey John - No one is being slick. You incorrectly assumed that it was suspicious that there was noRead More video tape of the meet the candidates night. I can understand why you would think that but the fact is that the PTA did not allow any video. I wish video could have been done so the community could have seen each candidate themselves and make their own assessment. If you don't believe what I say just contact the PTA and confirm it with them....
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 09:52 am
@RL - I agree with term limits, but the law says that can only be proposed by the Board. The publicRead More cannot submit such a proposition. The board, at least the current one, will never agree to that b/c they want to keep themselves in power at any cost. By adding 2 new people Prop 2 may a provide an opportunity to have people on aboard that will consider proposing term limits, as well as other changes. So, yet another reason to Vote YES to Prop 2.
RL May 17, 2013 at 08:08 am
I agree new blood can be used and some new thinking and the way to accomplish that is to vote newRead More faces in. Does having more people create a larger bureaucracy thought. Having served on a number of private, charity and corporate boards I can tell you more is not always the answer. I think term limits would be a better approach. This way you don't have the same though process year after year. Two terms six years seems reasonably to me.
Concerned Commackian May 18, 2013 at 09:18 pm
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LINANA May 17, 2013 at 12:28 am
Since past precedence for a number of years has been to send out literature informing ALL residentsRead More (including those with no children in the schools) of candidates bios, does the omission of the bios raise a legal issue? ??? We all pay school taxes and district has the obligation to provide us with this info. Shame on them!!!! Teacher's union is also "encouraging" votes for Egan & Behar and against adding two additional seats to the board. People with a vested interest "encouraging" you to vote a particular way should raise flags!!! Hopefully people will think for themselves and make an informed vote for the candidate they feel will best represent the students & residents of Commack.
Janice May 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm
IT does raise a red flag! I think it IS definitely time to vote for some new folks. I am going toRead More check out Hartman and Tampellini's bios. If I like what I see, I am voting for change
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 15, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Doing my best. Please spread the word. Thanks!
GM May 15, 2013 at 08:30 pm
You go Girl! Spread the word. It's less than a week until we vote and you can quickly educate usingRead More social media.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
ergodic May 16, 2013 at 11:09 am
Hey, PTA, BOE/// try lending a hand///don't criticize things you don't understand///the community isRead More clearly beyond your command///your 100 year road is rapidly aging///and, the times, they are changing. CUFSD has experienced a decline in total enrollment from a peak of 7830 in 2008-09 to 6934 (projected) in 2013-14, a decrease of 11.4%. During that period, spending per pupil increased from $19,759 to $25,871 - an increase of 30.9%. This performance does not reflect well on the financial management capabilities of the BOE. And, is it a surprise that NYSUT is an advocate for the status quo? A more democratic approach to decision-making via a vote for Prop 2 should be helpful.
re May 16, 2013 at 12:01 am
Vote yes for the additional members of the board. Save our schools. Save our schools with fairRead More representation. Join a new taxpayers representation committee at the Commack community assoc effective September 2013. Our next meeting is May 30 at 7pm at the Bristol assisted living community room( next to sears) Do not let this civic group wither away as it would be a victory for the school board that monitors any opposition to the way the district operates.