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Residents Fuming Over Heavy Industry Zoning Request

Commack, Kings Park and Northport residents attend packed hearing, fight back against Carlson Associates' request for rezoning to heavy industrial.

More than 250 residents attended a three-hour marathon public hearing at the Smithtown Planning Board Wednesday night to speak out against a request to rezone properties along Old Northport Road in Kings Park to heavy industry. 

Carlson Associates and multiple business partners filed an application with the Town of Smithtown on Jan. 19 seeking

Vincent Trimarco, an attorney representing Carlson, said the application is an effort to bring their businesses into compliance with town code, but residents expressed everything from doubt to outright anger at their zoning request. 

"What has been allowed is criminal. What you are getting here is criminals, they are standing here. They don't seem to be embarrassed. They violated the law. They hired a lawyer, he gets his fees and they get away with it. You should be ashamed of yourself," said Martin Mullarkey, of Commack.

Despite Toby Carlson calling for business and residents to "come together for a solution," residential neighbors doubted his sincerity. 

"Their blatant disregard for the rules has gone on for far too long. The business owners have proven they are not to be trusted  by well-documented, illegal behavior," Commack resident Ann Guaglione said, speaking for Townline Association. 

Carlson Associates was fined by the DEC for illegal mining in 1998. DEC officials said they had and was investigating a business on Old Northport Road in January, who it would not name. 

"We have documentation over and over again showing violations of the environment, noise, and pollution. The credibility of the Carlson family, based on this data, is not credible," said Tony Haberman of Commack, part of the Townline Association. "When we fought plans for a power plant eight years ago, we repeatedly asked to speak with him and our requests were repeatedly denied." 

Robert Semprini, representing the Commack Civic Association, didn't understand why business owners hadn't reached out to the civics if they were willing to work together. 

"If Mr. Carlson or other property owners want to work with us, they should work with us. They have no right to destroy our quality of life, no right to destroy roads, no right to put our kids in danger - there's a surplus of 3,000 kids between Commack High School and Northridge [elementary].  Where is there concern?" Semprini said. 

Other residents were worried if Smithtown officials grant the Carlsons' request for heavy industrial zoning, it could lead to even worse living conditions. 

"If they get their grant and change the zoning, not just them but other asphalt companies could come. We open up the flood gates... that needs to be seriously considered with more than 75 acres of land close to schools, hospitals and large communities," said Sherry Kaplan, representing the Townline Association. 

East Northport resident Nancy Lower also expressed her concern. 

"This zoning law is not just about existing businesses, but what other businesses might be coming in the future," Lower said. 

For those who live closest to the site say they are concerned that the rezoning to heavy industrial would impact their quality of life. 

"I can't let my children play outside without it stinking. On Saturday of Memorial Day, the smell was toxic. It was horrible. My children could not play outside," Kings Park resident Debbie Danley said. 

Yet, she understood the need for compromise by both the businesses and residents for a solution. 

"I would love nothing more than to come to a compromise where there land is valuable, businesses employ local residents and bring in tax revenue. Right now, the tax revenue isn't there, the odors are there, and residents' concern is compounding," Danley said. 

The public hearing on the Carlson Associates and FB4 Reality's request for change to heavy industrial zoning has been left open until Sept. 5. 

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Retired May 22, 2013 at 01:17 pm
Congrats to Jim and Steve, but most off all congrats to the Commack Community for having the wisdomRead More to elect them.
MJS May 22, 2013 at 10:10 am
Get ready Mary Jo, Dr. James, CTA, and PTA.. Change is Coming!
GM May 21, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Well run Gentlemen! Get some sleep now.... you guys have a lot of work to do.
Laja May 21, 2013 at 09:03 pm
They change the name occasionally but they are and will always be TaxPac
Laja May 21, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Simply stating that you are not aware of who you are supporting is ecactly why the rest of us areRead More relentless in our efforts to keep them out of our community. For the sake of your kids, your property value and future (both near and distant) research this Group. You will be shocked to read the Exact words used by the group you support in TaxPac literature. Then read about the effects of their policies on the communities the infiltrate. And how long it takes these communities to recover once they are all voted out of office.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 04:45 pm
LaJa. First, I don't hide behind initials or some fake name. I can't take you seriously when youRead More won't reveal who you really are. Secondly, I am not part of any group whatsoever. I do not need others telling me how to think. There ARE citizens in this town who are not happy with the current board and their ways, who do not need to be part of an organization of some sort to try and initiate change. Finally, it's funny you accuse me of being a part of something that I don't even know what it is. I've never heard of TaxPac in my life.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 08:18 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. It is all quite sad.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 10:53 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. Now, this morning, I hear that the PTA is telling people that they are opposed to Proposition 2 in order to keep "special interest groups" from taking over. How can parents in this community, whose children are in the system, who want to make positive change for those children, be a "special interest group"? It blows my mind, how in politics, people can twist things so badly to meet their own agendas. It is all quite sad.
Laja May 21, 2013 at 11:12 am
By the way, I am not in any way associated or affiliated with any union... If you and your groupRead More are not affiliated with TaxPac then you should know that the platform Tampellini and Hartman support, along with the sudden urgent need for 2 more board seats, is taken straight from the TaxPac play book. You can agree with them, as that is your right BUT you must also know where their rhetoric originates and educate yourselves as to what TaxPac as a group wants here on Long Island. If the TaxPac agenda was above board and positive for LI communities there would be no need for them to sneak around and attempt to gain entry into communities through back-door maneuvers like the sudden need for 2 more seats...when Fusco couldn't get in last year either..... At least know that you are being played.
Devil's Advocate May 21, 2013 at 10:21 am
No agenda? That's a joke, right? Vote for Behar and Egan. Keep TAXPAC out of Commack.
Concerned Commackian May 21, 2013 at 07:42 am
Steve Hartman is the clear choice over Jarrett Behar. Behar is just another "insider"Read More enamored with that status quo. His wife is a guidance counselor in another district, so it should come as no surprise that he sees nothing broken. Elect a fresh face with valuable community leadeship experience and no agenda. Vote Hartman
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 21, 2013 at 08:19 am
Last night, I had quite the email exchange with members of the PTA Executive Committee. Not onlyRead More could they NOT provide me with an answer as to why they've chosen not to support Proposition 2, all I received was snide remarks and avoidance. Not smart or professional at all. In fact, they seem like quite the joke. I guess they are more of a social club who makes decisions about an important vote without doing their homework and then pushes that decision on the community (via street signs and phone calls to parents). I believe the public deserves a valid answer as to why they've taken their position. Unfortunately, they can't provide one. It makes me ponder if I should even bother to support the PTA in the future (as I have in the past with both my time and money). They certainly don't seem to be making decisions in the best interest of our children. It is all quite sad.
Commackvoter May 20, 2013 at 10:24 pm
I know what the word increase means! You mentioned it above about insurance rates going up. You seeRead More when a member of the BOE gives his kid a job in the district, then that adult child (24 yrs) takes a 15 yr old student to a hotel for sex and gets arrested, then our insurance company has to pay to settle the lawsuit, dont you think our insurance rates go up John. Sure you dont believe it - Read all about it http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/cops-commack-hs-coach-faces-sex-abuse-charges-1.1711455 Time to break up this 5 member coffee clotch and their you scratch my back I will scratch yours.
John Smith May 20, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Can I ask you an honest question? I hope this doesn't sound to condescending because I really amRead More curious. Do you understand what the word "increase" means?
Judge for your yourself whether these signatures were written by the same person
COM-MOM May 22, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Just asking. Coincidence that your Commack Patch Penn name is LaJa short for Laura James? Anyway,Read More in your infinite wisdom can you please explain why we needed to hire a $106,000 admin. from Center Moriches? Do we not have admins within the Commack School District who are qualified for the position? No one was eligible for a promotion?
Laja May 22, 2013 at 09:51 pm
Well yesterday I was Peter Wunsch so today I guess I can be Dr. James's wife. Any choices forRead More tomorrow?
COM-MOM May 22, 2013 at 09:39 pm
P.S. LaJa. Is LaJa short for Laura James?? Are you Dr. James' wife??
Concerned Commackian May 20, 2013 at 03:45 pm
Im concerned with the rate of spending increases. You cant talk your way around them no matter howRead More hard you try. And as to this "district has no control" argument, thats a cop out and you know it. While the state tells the district what percentage of salary it must pay into the retirement system, if the district had done a more effective job of limiting the growth in compensation, not only would salary expense been lower, but the amount paid into the retirement system would have been lower as well. And John, care to calculate how much the additional state aid to the district this year lowered the levy? Im sure you dont.
John Smith May 20, 2013 at 02:19 pm
Or you could think about how spending is going up over 4% (the majority of which is fueled by costsRead More that are mandated by law -- Teachers' and Employee's Retirement and Insurance contributions -- over which the School District has no control), but the tax levy is only going up 2.91%, which means the School District -- gasp -- might be doing a good job finding alternative sources of funding other than the taxpayers. Again, look at the info for yourself, not through the eyes of a biased Tampellini/Hartman/Tax Pac supporter.