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Should Smithtown Board of Zoning Appeals Approve the Commack Hess Plans?

We've like to hear your opinion on Commack Hess's plans to build on the corner of Jericho Turnpike and Harned Road.

 

Commack residents are awaiting to hear whether Smithtown Board of Zoning Appeals will approve 17 zoning variances requested by Hess in order to build on the Jericho Turnpike and Harned Road intersection. 

Patch reported last week that  building a 12-pump gas filling station and 1,230-square foot convenience at the former Shell site. Many expressed concerns about traffic safety and the 17 variances requested setting a bad precedent for future businesses on Jericho Turnpike. 

We received an outpouring of comments and emails from residents saying they are in support of the project, wanting Hess to build in the community to help bring competition for lower gas prices and get ride of the eye sore the former Shell station has become. 

"There are a half dozen closed up gas stations in Commack along with 50 or more boarded up/vacant retail stores. We need any new business we can get," wrote Frank.

One BZA member told Patch that they are a bit insulted that many residents feel like the board members have already made up their minds on the issue. He said given the community's division, he was unsure how to cast his vote and would have to carefully review each and every one of the 17 variance requests one by one, plus their overall impact on the community. 

Yet, the BZA member felt that Hess could bring something to the Commack area by bringing in a new business.

We'd like to ask: Do you believe the BZA already has made its decision about Hess? Should Hess get blanket approval for its 17 variances, or would you be willing to see a Hess built with fewer zoning exceptions? Or, do you still hope Hess will not build?

Tell us in the comments below. 

MMIGDOL October 16, 2012 at 08:11 PM
There is only 1 convenience store ( Gasoline Heaven ) on the south side and 5 on the north side so Hess will make it 2 on the south side . This is all about price and development of a major eyesore . It should not be about an owner of a mom and pop business . The community as a whole is the major interest . We are all entitled to our opinion
TMH October 16, 2012 at 09:02 PM
I use cash and someone pumps it for me so I don't get ripped off and the mobil station down the road sometimes charges $1.00 more a gallon for credit as well as the shell station that charges .50 more for full service I don't hear anyone talking about that.If you are going to keep harping on the cash credit thing then realize most retail stores factor in you using a credit card into the price so I guess they are ripping everyone off too. Like I said before can you make a post on this without taking a shot a the Gulf Station.You sound like you have something to gain from this getting done.
Ronald October 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM
If you turn left into or out of Gasolne Heaven you are gambling with your life every time. That is the most dangerous spot in Commack. The accident rate at this location should be investigated and all left turns there banned.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 12:16 AM
MMIGDOL, Mitchell Migdol, as previously stated you are a liar with a first hand agenda. Saw you with your hoodlum friends from The Spare Rib! Saw you in deep discussion with those losers and the half stupid lawyers from Hess. You are NOT just a citizen who wants competition. Listen Mitchell, you dont live anywhere near where this proposed station is. Everybody knows you live on Leslie Drive. Why don't you stop pretending and being a two bit liar, and stand up like the coward you are and say you have a piece in the pie over there. Mitchell you are a loser.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 12:20 AM
Mitchell Migdol, you are a fake and the only one using different names on here! You my friend are a joke.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Mitchell Migdol, sat next to you at the meeting and you had no idea. Well that is until you moved and sat next to the Hess lawyers and those grimy unrefined slobs from The Spare Rib! You are a LIAR.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Mitchell Migdol= LIAR, SCAM ARTIST, SHYSTER, LOSER! You are a joke around town.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Mitchell Migdol, = The man (not really) with the biggest agenda of all!!!!
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 02:26 AM
Mike it is unfortunate that you have to resort to disrespectful language and name calling . I stand by my opinion and will support Hess in their quest to invest in our community . Who could not support that ? America is all about equal opportunity for all and competition is the best thing for the consumer . We have our choice to shop where we want and to vote as we see fit . That is how it goes . No one is in charge or above anyone else and things change . Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle used to hit homeruns but that has come to and end as well . Businesses open and businesses close . I want companies to invest in our community . LA Fitness is opening a new gym in Commack and opened one 10 days ago in Smithtown so I support LA Fitness too . Does that mean I am against PTI or Retro Fitness , absolutley not but it will give people options as to which company you want to do business with . BTW Ronald is so correct in what he just said about that very dangerous left turn . I do know that a study is being done as we speak on the accidents on RT 25 in front of the Gulf Station as we speak so let's see what that brings . The Spare Rib owners and the owner of the empty gas station all acted respectfully at the meeting . They were model citizens of our community and they showed that to all .
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 02:50 AM
Mike I have just made copies of all your e mails and I will keep a record of your comments for future use .
Judy October 17, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Approve it and build it already. Its a no brainer!!!
Mike October 17, 2012 at 01:58 PM
You know Mitchell, you ever hear the term " you can dish it out but you can't take it?" That is precisely you. You can use peoples names and say things about them that are of your opinion. You can say people are greedy, you can say that some of the Mothers of Commack are lying, you can say that people are paying off Politicians, employees etc. You can say that only family members were there for Rudy, when in fact that is FALSE. So you can say things that are untrue but are how YOU feel, and other people can say how THEY feel and your getting your feelings hurt. I have a suggestion, if you can dish it out you better be able to take it.
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Mike we are all entitled to our opinions . I have stated mine and everyone else has stated theirs including you . Judy just gave her opinion , see above and she seems to agree with me and 1000's others . Lets wait and see what the people in charge have to say when they decide what will happen on that eyesore of a property that welcomes you to Smithtown . Rugs or furniture anyone ???????
TMH October 17, 2012 at 03:05 PM
I just cant figure you guys out you keep talking about things that just aren't true. There hasn't been an accident in front of the Gulf station in many years.You say that its dangerous to make a left into the Gulf Station (WHY) its not different than any other business on this road thats not at an intersection.Is it dangerous to make a left into or out of the Spare Rib? Just stick to the facts.
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 03:41 PM
To the point - Build it ! Let the chips fall where they may ............. Eliminate the eyesore , create new jobs and lower gas prices cash/credit . That is it in a nutshell . Lets hope it is for the best for the residents of Commack as a whole and not just a select few . The majority is what matters ............
Mike October 17, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Mitchell, you didn't answer me. That is the most lame response ever. Stop sidestepping what I said. Where are these 1000's of others? Do you mean the very few people on here that continue to post the same things under different names, just like you do?
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 05:33 PM
The platform is yours Mike . Please tell us why you personally would not want the eyesore to be developed and why you feel Hess should not invest millions of dollars in our community . Please also address it to the jobless people who would have a job if Hess did build there . Both the construction jobs involved and the full time Hess employees . Thanks in advance
Mike October 17, 2012 at 06:32 PM
You don't have to thank me Mitch! Side note, just because you tell me to do something doesn't mean I'm going to do it. The world doesn't work that way Mitchy boy. The funny thing is I live within a stones throw from that vacant building and it really doesn't bother me. You on the other hand DO NOT live near it and it does. Strange. What are you going to do next, if you dont like the way a neighbors house looks campaign for your boys to build another Hess there? You are way too out of control! Your on the other side of town big boy.
MMIGDOL October 17, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Fitzpatrick lives in St James and he came to voice his opposition as a civilian for this property that is many miles from his house ???? I was not aware that you lived right next to the abandoned properties that the town has listed as a major eyesores . If they develop the properties it would increase the value of your house . There are very old gas tanks under the ground there and Hess will dig them up and replace them with new ones that are more friendly to the environment . The name calling is not needed Mike . I can see you are not happy with the development that might be taking place .
Jimmy Bones October 17, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Just in! Gas Heaven 12 cents more for credit. Fighting Hess and raise credit price. Interesting!
Mike October 17, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Hey Jimmy, If I remember correctly YOU were the guy that said HE didn't care how much the Mobil in Smithtown was charging for credit. You don't care that it'smore than other stations because YOU go and YOU pay cash. That being said why would it matter what stations charge for credit? YOU are paying cash anyway...........Jimmy Bones 3:42 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012 Paul, I dont care what Mobil charges for credit. I go,pay cash and get gas cheaper then all the other stations on the strip.
Mike October 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Mitchell, did you not hear what Mike Fitzpatrick said? I sure did. I guess your head was too far up the butts of the Hess lawyers and the Spare Rib hooligans. Enjoy your evening.
Jimmy Bones October 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Mike, Your right. I go to Mobil and pay cash. .393 this morning on way to work. Just passing info along. Happened to notice while stopped waiting for landscaping truck blocking right lane to make left onto Jerichio. Good memory Mike! A+ for you..
MMIGDOL October 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Just passed the Gulf , no cars getting gas . Then went to get gas at Hess on RT 25 and Kings park rd and every pump was busy , I had to wait a minute but that is ok , same price cash / credit ...................Good observation Jim
Todd J. Zimmer October 18, 2012 at 05:20 AM
You people arguing is really pathetic. You all have an agenda. I am a lifelong community resident. I would like to see a fresh, new business come to the area. It was a gas station before and it will be one again. The implementation of red light cameras all over Commack has dramatically decreased accidents on our roads. Most of the opposition to this new business is from Rudy Massa, who owns the Gulf/Gasoline Heaven. His reasons for opposing this new tax revenue generating business on a blighted property is simple. GREED. He wants less competition. I stopped using his station after he took advantage of the economy by charging more for credit versus cash. Credit cards are a cost of doing business. If Gasoline Heaven doesn't want to charge same price cash or credit, then they should either change their policy if they are losing business- don't just oppose competition. I know many, many people in Commack and the overwhelming consensus is BUILD IT!
MMIGDOL October 18, 2012 at 01:54 PM
Well said Todd , I could not agree more with your assessment . I rest my case !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the final thought on this matter . Nothing could be closer to the truth than your statement ...................BUILD IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will October 18, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Amen Brother !!
Maria October 20, 2012 at 02:43 AM
I don't see any lies - you seem to speak the truth based on what I read of your posts. But then again I'll be called Mitchell now too. Get over it people - move on already - this will be a done deal. Find your next project to take issue with.
MMIGDOL October 28, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Btw the only gas station for miles and miles on the south side of RT 25 is the Gulf , we need at least another 4 on the south side of RT 25 between Commack rd and Willets Path . Maybe they should all be Hess , CASH/CREDIT same price .
Elenore Fick February 19, 2013 at 01:15 PM
Yes cash and credit same price but self serve and what happens when Gulf is out of business the price goes up and does anyone know how many accidents there are at that intersection. I would not have a problem if the parkway exit was not there. It is going to creat a problem. People trying to pull out pull in make left where they are not suppose to. They do it all the time into Friendly's. It is a safety hazard

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