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Smithtown Board OKs New Gas Station

Despite some opposition, a Hess station will occupy corner of Harned Road and Jericho Turnpike.

The Smithtown planning board has approved a new Hess station near the Sunken Meadow Parkway in Commack, according to a Newsday report.

The Hess will move into the vacant property on the corner of Jericho Turnpike and Harned Road formerly occupied by a Shell station. The space was included on a to be addressed by the Town of Smithtown back in June.

The Hess station will not only feature gas pumps, but also a minimart, which is why a zoning change was needed from the board before construction could begin.

Some residents and a nearby business owner voiced their opposition to the planning board, citing concerns of traffic congestion. The owner of Gasoline Heaven says the added competition will put them out of business.

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Smithtown Board Clears Way for Gas Station l Newsday.com

barbarasungirl@att.net October 22, 2011 at 01:38 PM
Their use to be one their years ago. It use to be a shell gas station.
chefcristo October 22, 2011 at 03:02 PM
gasoline heaven: try going back to your beginnings, when credit card users were not charged extra for your gas. perhaps you're concerned about HESS BECAUSE THEY CHARGE THE SAME AMOUNT: CASH OR CREDIT. GET WITH IT!
Pat palk October 22, 2011 at 08:48 PM
Fianally! The corner eyesore will be gone! Anything will be better than what has been there for the past few years!
chefcristo October 22, 2011 at 09:14 PM
why not a good, old fashioned BROOKLYN DINER on that site?
Todd J. Zimmer October 23, 2011 at 03:32 AM
Chefcristo- You beat me to the comment I wanted to make! Rudy Massa, who is the owner of Gasoline Heaven changed his station from cash/credit same price, to pay more with credit, when gas prices were hitting almost $5.00 a couple of years ago. I remember asking the staff there and they said it was a temporary thing to level out their cost for the gas which was being charged at increased prices to them and with credit card companies cutting in to profits, it was necessary to enact this policy.The explanation didn't sit right, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Here we are years later, gases prices have come down from the all time highs and most stations have gone back to the cash/credit same price system- all except Rudy. Maybe it is greed, but I think it is a horrible policy. We take a heavy hit for using a debit card...even using a Gulf card you pay the credit price! I agree with Chefcristo "GET WITH IT!"...or you will lose you business, because I for one already use several other stations to get my gas and only use Gasoline Heaven/Gulf when I wish to pay cash. I used to use it every time and WAS a loyal customer!
chefcristo October 23, 2011 at 09:16 AM
IN RESPONSE TO TODD ZIMMER: I WAS A LOYAL CUSTOMER OF RUDY'S, EMPHASIZE "WAS." FOR ECONOMICS, I USE CREDIT CARD WHENEVER I CAN, EVEN FOR A CUP OF COFFEE. MONEY STAYS IN MY BANK ACCOUNT UNTIL THE CREDIT COMPANY BILLS ME (AND I GET CASH REWARDS FROM DISCOVER FOR EACH PURCHASE!) THE DAY RUDY STARTED EXTRA CHARGE FOR CREDIT POLICY, I NO LONGER WAS LOYAL. I GO EXCLUSIVELY TO STATIONS WHOSE "SAME PRICE..."C OR C" PREVAILS. THE ORIGINAL "PATCH" ARTICLE SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT WITH THE NEW HESS STATION POSSIBLY TAKING THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARNED AND JERICHO RUDY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT " BEING PUT OUT OF BUSINESS". HE HAS MADE HIS LIVING FROM HIS LOYAL CUSTOMERS FROM HIS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS AT THE ORIGINAL LITTLE BRICK COTTAGE TO HIS MEGA GAS SUPERMARKET. (ANY GAS STATION OWNER OPERATOR WHO HAS A CREDIT CARD POLICY IS MAKING MONEY BOTH ON GAS SALES AND THE EXTRA-CHARGE-FOR- CREDIT .OFTEN THE PRICE DIFFERENCE IS MORE THAN TEN CENTS PER GALLON. THE CREDIT COMPANIES DO NOT CHARGE THE OWNERS THAT MUCH. THIS APPLIES TO ALL GAS STATIONS, NOT ONLY RUDY'S THAT MAINTAIN THIS RIP-OFF POLICY. LOYALTY ENDS WHEN IT AFFECTS ONE'S WALLET. J.Q. PUBLIC HAS TO KEEP HIS/HER ECONOMIC HEAD ABOVE WATER AND AT LEAST MAINTAIN A REASONABLE STANDARD LIVING. HMM, MIGHT THIS CREDIT POLICY BE A PART OF THE LARGER "OCCUPY WALL STREET" MOVEMENT? IF THE COUNTRY COLLECTIVELY WOULD STOP THE LOYALTY ISSUES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ITS ECONOMIC WELL BEING, WE MIGHT BE BETTER OFF EVEN IN THE SHORT RUN .
Chris October 23, 2011 at 01:25 PM
Hi Chefcristo, Check your keyboard, because I think you caps lock button is on. WHY ARE YOU YELLING?????????????????????????????????
chefcristo October 23, 2011 at 02:01 PM
hi chris, wasn't really following computer protocol (READ CAPS=YELLING.) sorry if i offended you...simply had my caps lock on, and being rather lazy, i just kept typing because i was well into my response before i realized the lock was on. in any case, i'm rather glad the response went through that way since the topic is important enough to require everyone's attention as are all topics regarding our economic well-being and protection from being ripped off by anyone!
Timothy John October 25, 2011 at 09:00 PM
This is Rudy from Gasoline Heaven, I have decided to respond to many of the comments posted to clarify a lot of misinformation reported. In response to the comment of no stations using cash credit policy, in our area alone on Vets Highway Getty, Shell, Gulf , USA , Performace, all charge cash-credit. On Jericho turnpike Gas Heaven, Pit Stop , Sunoco, BP, And Mobil all charge cash-credit. On Commack Road Citgo, Shell , Citgo , Shell ( by the expressway ) all charge cash-credit. If you buy gas at my location and use a gulf card, Gulf Mastercard , Or debit card you are charged the cash price. Keep in mind we are a full serve station run by local owership that employees people from the local communities. Hess is the only company left runs their own stations, All of our other private owned gas stations have differnt pricing structures to stay in buisness. I would like to add that you are all welcome to speak to me at any time on this or any other matter I am always acessable. Thank you for all your support through all the years.
Todd J. Zimmer October 26, 2011 at 04:10 AM
Rudy, I was not aware using a debit card or Gulf gift card/credit card was charged at the cash price. I stand corrected. I am a business owner in Commack, as well. I am an attorney and I live in this community. I think Gasoline Heaven is a wonderful operation and I have frequently used them for not just gas, but service work and to buy goods from the convenience store. It is easily accessible and easy to navigate, as there is always someone there to direct you. That area of Commack is very congested traffic wise. I agree that a Hess on the corner will create traffic tie ups in that already jammed intersection. It will be hard to access and there is not enough of a property there to make it easily navigatable. Those wanting to turn out of the proposed Hess to go westbound on Jericho Tpke will have a difficult time and accidents may occur. I would rather buy my gas from Rudy. I like to support the people in my community, especially those who have invested graciously in it as Rudy has. My only issue is still the cash/credit pricing. I am sure I speak for many Rudy when I say there are many of us in Commack, business people, most of us use credit cards, like me, to make my end of year tax accounting easier. Too much cash use can raise "questions" for guys like me. Perhaps trying out cash/credit same price again might yield greater business to make up for the insane fees the credit card companies charge...I pay them too when my clients pay by credit card.
Joshua October 26, 2011 at 07:58 PM
When the new Hess opens Mr. Rudy and these other gas stations will have a choice continue these rip-off policys of extra for credit or go out of business. Why would you pay more for credit when you dont have to. Question that needs to be answered. If Hess can do it why not Gulf? And I think its greed! If you go out to dinner,movies,supermarket,or clothes shopping do they have a cash/ credit price? Hmm!
Dan November 23, 2011 at 02:08 PM
Hey Rudy, why didn't you buy the property in question? Second, why not state your case for the actual costs involved with using a credit card. I.E. Charge card company fees and the cost of running the cards through the machines. I'd guess it does come close to 10 cents on $3.60/gal. No one can argue with the friendly, efficient & full service provided. I like to think of cash paying customers as getting a 'cost reduction' pass-thru discount. For a competitively priced commodity product, like gasoline, it's hard to build in the costs involved with accepting credit cards. If you look closely at this business model, I think you'll see this is another way the 'money people' (Banks & Wall Street) stick it to the 99%. Carry a balance on your card, pay 18-29% interest (forget about the fees... late, overbalance, cash advance, etc.). Business owners expected to absorb 3+% taken out of their pocket by fees.

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