Smithtown Zoning Board Denies Concrete Biz KPE

Board of Zoning Appeals says concrete manufacturing and related uses were always non-confirming.

Kings Park and Commack residents have won the latest fight in their ongoing battle to get heavy industry out of their backyards.

Smithtown's Board of Zoning Appeals voted to deny KPE II a certificate of existing use that would legalize its pre-cast concrete business off Old Northport Road and Lawrence Road in Kings Park on Feb. 12.

KPE II sought for a certificate to legalize 13 different industrial uses on two properties totaling 14.2 acres in Kings Parks. Among the activities the company sought permission for include pre-cast concrete and cesspool fabrication, concrete manufacturing, concrete aggregate processing, concrete and rock crushing.

An attorney representing KPE II argued these business activities have been carried out on the property since the 1950s, and the new owners – who purchased the land from Karl Karlson in 2011 – seek to continue the business.

"The applications for the certificate of the existing use are denied because pre-cast concrete cesspool manufacturing facility; concrete manufacturing plant; concrete aggregate processing center are not lawfully conforming," wrote the BZA in its Feb. 12 decision.

In their 9-page decision, BZA members trace back the history of the area to 1932 when it was zoned "B-Residence" and industrial activity wasn't allowed. It was not until 1950, the town rezoned the east side of 7.5 acres to "G-Industrial," or Light Industrial, which specifically prohibited 54 uses including "any use noxious or offensive by reason of emission of odors, dust, fumes, smoke, gas, vibration or noise."

Commack and Kings Park residents complained of noise and odor issues at the Nov. 27 public hearing on KPE II's application, claiming to hear loud booms and explosive noises at night.

Board members found that sand mining might have been the only industrial activity that could have been legally carried out on KPE II's property after zoning changes in 1953 and 1955 permitted quarries by special exception – except the former owner Karl Karlson never filed for a permit. Sand mining was made illegal by town zoning changes again in 1963.

Residents' also testified Carbro Industries, previous owners of the site until 2011, had gradually discontinued many of its manufacturing activities and never performed as much concrete crushing despite KPE's assertion business has been conducted since the 1950s. Several times, it has filed permits to rezone the land for a potential housing development.

Under town code, if the previous or current owners stop nonconforming industrial activities for more than 12 months, those activities are no longer permitted as a right.

"Overall, the neighbors' testimony was more credible than the applicant's. Conspicuously missing was live testimony from the person who allegedly conducted the business from 1972 to 2011," the BZA's decision reads.  "Further, no records of sales of pre-cast produces were presented."

Aerial photos submitted by KPE starting in 2001 that showed plants were growing back over the property, indicating "the area was not being used enough to prevent nature from reclaiming it," according to the board. Later aerial pictures from 2007 and 2010 show more plant regrowth and large vacant areas.

KPE II has up to 60 days to file an appeal with state courts.

lisa February 21, 2013 at 05:09 PM
Please sign our petition and share. Make our communities health and safe again..... http://www.change.org/petitions/smithtown-hall-representatives-shut-down-all-companies-that-do-not-comply-with-current-town-codes#
lisa February 27, 2013 at 02:27 PM
please take a moment and sign this petition to help make our towns of Commack, Kings Park and Smithtown a healthier and safer place for our families. it just takes a moment to make a difference to our communities! Thank you to all that have already helped! Keep Sharing! http://www.change.org/petitions/smithtown-hall-representatives-shut-down-all-companies-that-do-not-comply-with-current-town-codes
Bringourtownback March 01, 2013 at 06:57 PM
The KPE property was abandoned for years, ask all the police officers that used to sit in that "parking lot" patrolling for speeders. Now KPE decided they need a place to run their toxic operations, so they have returned to the property using it as their dumping/mining ground. They also have begun to move sand and dirt into mounds to cover up and hide the activity going on there. In addition, the tractor trailer activity that their "business" requires is not permitted on any of these residential roads. It's time for the SCSD to take a stance as well, it is their job to take care of the children who learn and play on the fields right up the road! How would the school feel if visiting sports teams refused to play on our newly renovated fields because of the pollution and odor constantly coming from the KPE property? Or even worse, how would they feel if their students began having respiratory issues from the air they've been exposed to as a result of KPE's behavior. I don't think either of the above are things the school would like to see nor face. So, Mr. Superintendent, teachers and faculty of SCSD, it's time for you to take a stance as well!
Aidan March 03, 2013 at 02:22 AM
KPE does not do anything that creates odors.
KPNY March 03, 2013 at 02:26 AM
@aiden. yes they do...and they have been sanctioned and fined by the DEC for illegally dumping contaminated solid waste...I don't have the energy to deal with your asinine comment now...you must be their lame PR person. Good night!
Irishdave March 03, 2013 at 10:34 PM
I hope you are awake enough now to tell us what is causing the odors because if it is just talk it will affect jobs and consumer costs. Where is the Citation of the sanctions and fines by the DEC? Prove it and let it be closed down... ...if not it could become north shore elitism and that would be asinine!
Dave March 04, 2013 at 06:38 PM
I have a silly question why did any of you move close to a sand mining operation it states clearly in the article that it's been here for over 50 years you can't tell me you bought your house and then they showed up in your backyard!! stop complaining!!
lisa March 04, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Hi Dave, it was closed down due to their own illegal activities and also, these houses were not built yet. The land was deserted and being looked at by contractors to build homes. No one ever thought another illegal facility would open up. Don't blame us for that, blame your town. But thanks for being a caring neighbor.
Dave March 04, 2013 at 09:51 PM
@ilovekp That story might work on someone who didn't grow up and live in the town still. In the 1990's Lawrence Rd. didn't even go through. The road was nothing less then a car and truck dump yard with debris and garbage everywhere. Kids hung out there set fires dumped garbage and did drugs it was a waste land. The whole area looks now looks 1000 times better than it did! So pretty much what you're saying is you bought a house next to a sandpit with the speculation that it might be turned in too more houses? And that never happened so now you're upset that it's still a sandpit and you want some one to put a court order to change it Because you made a foolish decision by the house where you did. This type of mentality is what destroyed most of everything cool on Long Island. The same mentality of people complain about the noise from the airport after they built the house next to an airport. Or wanted Hamptons Raceway shutdown because it was too noisy even though the Raceway was built over 80 years ago and they moved there house next to an open dragstrip.
lisa March 04, 2013 at 09:57 PM
Again Dave, thank you so much for your neighborly help. You have been so generous. Thank you for putting on record that they are sand mining when they say they aren't, That they are a dump when they say they are not. You always know how to help us and the judge. Thank you for all your efforts and keep up the good work! Keep it coming! You are the best!
Dave March 04, 2013 at 10:22 PM
I sense sarcasm... I guess the truth hurts... Good luck in your battle
lisa March 04, 2013 at 11:26 PM
No sarcasm, just the truth, you and one other fellow write so much to help us out, and we have used it in our "battle". We are your neighbor and you are ours, yet your attitude is "you deserve it" - I am fine with that, as long as you keep helping, your blogs always help. so please don't stop...


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