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Local School Boards to Vote on Western Suffolk BOCES Budget

Charges increase more than $5K for Commack residents.

School Board trustees from the 18 local school districts that use the services offered by will vote Thursday on the 2011-12 administrative budget of $11,078,473.

This is an increase of $665,299 over last year's total administrative budget of $10,413,174, or 6.3 percent.

The increase is almost entirely the result of a $675,363 increase in the cost of post-retirement benefits for employees, according to budget documents. That cost is projected to increase from $5,802,301 this year to $6,477,664 next.

The administrative budget covers executive salaries as well as equipment, supplies, materials, contracted services, internal services and benefits for both active and retired employees.

The total proposed administrative charge to the 18 districts that use its services is $3,607,309, a $39,936 increase over 2010-11’s administrative charges of $3,566,373 or 0.65 percent.

Revenues will decrease $50,000, from $1,044,500 last year to $994,500 next year due to a $100,000 decrease in the amount of interest earned on deposits and a $50,000 increase in a 'miscellaneous' budget line.

The administrative budget total is distributed among the 18 districts based upon the three-year average of their 'resident weighted average daily attendance' or RWADA. Any change in the RWADA s based on the change in the percentage of a district’s student attendance compared to the other 17 districts.

A total of 3,249 students from all 18 districts used Western Suffolk BOCES services in 2010-11.

In 2010-11, 193 Commack students used BOCES services. Commack's share of administrative charges in the 2011-12 budget will increase $4,526, from $310,738 to $315,264. Its share of capital charges will increase $740, from $222,269 to $223,008, for an overall increase of $5,265.

In addition to the administrative budget, BOCES has a capital budget and a program budget, although the local school districts do not vote on these. The total 2011-12 proposed budget for all programs, administrative and capital costs is $148,389,523, or $12,426,190 more than last year's proposed budget of $135,963,333, a 9.13 percent increase. Of the proposed total 2011-12 budget, 3.1% will go to the administration portion on which local school boards vote; 4.4% will go to post-retirement benefits; and 2.1% will go to the capital budget. The balance, 90.4%, is determined by the programs and services that local school districts request.

"That total is a tentative figure," said Western Suffolk BOCES Public Information Officer Susan Smith, who added that tuition rates to districts increased just 2 percent. "It changes monthly based on how many students the districts really send through the doors. That can go up or down."

Last year, it went up before the year was over. That proposed $135,963,333 budget was almost $5 million less than the actual, adjusted budget of $140,848,413.

Smith said it's difficult to determine how many students are going to use the district's shared services and the number changes as the school year goes on.

"We go by past history primarily," Smith said. "At the end of April districts make a commitment to us so we have a basis to go by but they can decide later they have, for example, 10 more students that need our services and therefore our budget might have to go up. So the proposed budget does change throughout the year. But the budget the districts vote on is our best estimate of what we believe will happen."

According to Western Suffolk BOCES Superintendent Michael Mensch, BOCES was able to keep cost increases for programs down because collective bargaining units agreed to increased health insurance contributions for both active and new members. BOCES’ teachers also forfeited 1% of their contractual salary increase of 4.75 percent and he himself waived his contractual salary increase scheduled for July 1, 2011.

 “We were in an existing contract with the teachers," Mensch said. "It’s a New York State collective bargaining unit. You can't just take things away from them without bargaining. So, while the teachers didn't take a pay freeze, they did give back one percent and increased by $900 per teacher the amount they pay for health insurance. That was a good faith effort. That's a lot of money. And those kinds of concessions are going to continue, but it's hard to go to a freeze when you have an existing contract. They opened that contract up because they recognized that something had to be done."

Mensch said the district was able to keep the tuition increase to participating districts to 2 percent. "Last year the tuition increase was 2.94 percent, so this is significant," he said. The total capital charge to districts is $2,551,000, a zero increase over the 2010-11 budgets. The capital budget is based on the cost of renting facilities plus the cost of maintaining and making repairs to BOCES facilities. The local school boards do not vote on the capital budget. BOCES — or Board of Cooperative Educational Services — is a public organization that was created by the New York State Legislature in 1948 to provide shared educational programs and services to school districts. Western Suffolk is one of 37 BOCES districts in the state. A Pdf copy of shared services available for 2011-12 is attached to this article.

In addition to the budget, local school boards will vote on two trustee candidates. Board President Peter Wunsch, who represents Commack, and Jeanette Santo of Amityville, who represents Amityville, are each up for reelection to three-year terms.

In addition to Wunsch and Santo, the board is made up of: Vice President Mildred Browne of Wyandanch, Sydney Finkelstein of Elwood, Ilene Herz of Half Hollow Hills, Salvatore Marinello of West Babylon and Maryann Zumpano of Smithtown.

The next Regular meeting of the Board of Western Suffolk BOCES will be held on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at the Western Suffolk BOCES Conference Center, 31 Lee Avenue, Wheatley Heights, NY 11798. 

Western Suffolk BOCES staffing for 2010-11. Administrators and Supervisors (FTE) 60 Teaching Staff (FTE)
349 Teaching Assistants (FTE) 
7 Clerical (FTE)
110 Aides (FTE)
453 Physical/Occupational Therapists & Nurses (FTE) 
47 Adult Intstructors (part-time)
151 Food Services Staff (part-time)   22 Technical Staff (FTE)
 9 Custodial/ Maintenance (FTE)   61  Other
24 Total: 1,293

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Lisa Levine May 20, 2013 at 10:39 am
Hey Smith and Advocate - Jeez you guys have no idea what your talking about and are confusing theRead More reserves with the amounts over budgeted. They are not the same thing... The Unreserved Fund (rainy day fund) is a separate fund for contingencies. That is the fund that was reduced in Sachem etc.. causing issues for those districts. Nowhere have I ever heard Mr. T or Mr. H. ever say that the unreserved fund should be touched. They both unequivocally said the issue they have is with the millions of dollars that the board builds into the budget each year but never spends.. why should clubs/programs/classes/employees be cut when we have a $5M plus overage built into the budget and the Unreserved Fund is fully maxed out? Makes no sense.. Keep the Unreserved Fund topped out at $6M and cut some of the add'l money they are hiding in the $5m over budgeted - like perhaps down to $3.5m-$4m. Use that money for the kids instead!!
Commack Resident May 20, 2013 at 10:32 am
Can I suggest that the administrator of this site start labeling these types of blogs and boardRead More postings as the opinion of the person posting and not an actual news story or endorsed by Patch. I know it says Speak Out but I think you need to go further, particularly in light of the volume of the same sort of opinion based postings. It is getting very hard to figure out what are Patch endorsed news stories and what are opinion pieces by members of the community. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but many of these blogs are ending up on the main news feed of the site and are misleading. In particular, there was a "review" of the candidates debate from a supporter of certain candidates that almost seemed like a news story and not a story that was openly supporting 2 candidates, which it obviously was. Opinions are fine but opinions that aren't clearly labeled as such delegitimize any journalistic integrity that the Commack Patch may desire. Also, on both sides, I think there should be more civility in these postings rather than shouting people down and name calling. Why can't we find common ground on some of these issues instead of screaming and yelling?
Mike Spinelli May 20, 2013 at 10:26 am
@ John Smith & Devil's Advocate - You guys are wrong and just spewing misinformation. NeitherRead More Hartman or Tampellini said anything about spending down the reserves..in fact at meet the candidates night they both said they favored keeping the Unreserved Fund fully maxed at the full 4% ($6M) allowed by law. The problem they have is with the additional $5M+ that is over budgeted into the budget every year... There's no need to have a total of over $11M for contingencies.. The Unreserved Fund is supposed to be for unexpected contingencies and while it makes sense to over budget some $$ amount in the event expenses on the line items get exceeded, having another $5M+ is excessive when you are cutting kid's programs/clubs etc.. The District could have cut down the amount they over budgeted to $4M and applied the other $1M to restore clubs/programs and jobs that they cut...like the nurses that cost a mere $40k so as to ensure no child is put at risk in the vent of an emergency. So you both need to get your facts straight before you start talking about things.
Commackvoter May 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
Yes John Smith, agree that the PTA SHOULD have video taped and posted it somewhere for the communityRead More to view. This is the 21st century and there is no excuse for them not offering this for those who could not attend. Same goes for the CUFSD but at least the law prohibits them from banning taping public meetings.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 08:45 am
Hey John - No one is being slick. You incorrectly assumed that it was suspicious that there was noRead More video tape of the meet the candidates night. I can understand why you would think that but the fact is that the PTA did not allow any video. I wish video could have been done so the community could have seen each candidate themselves and make their own assessment. If you don't believe what I say just contact the PTA and confirm it with them....
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 09:52 am
@RL - I agree with term limits, but the law says that can only be proposed by the Board. The publicRead More cannot submit such a proposition. The board, at least the current one, will never agree to that b/c they want to keep themselves in power at any cost. By adding 2 new people Prop 2 may a provide an opportunity to have people on aboard that will consider proposing term limits, as well as other changes. So, yet another reason to Vote YES to Prop 2.
RL May 17, 2013 at 08:08 am
I agree new blood can be used and some new thinking and the way to accomplish that is to vote newRead More faces in. Does having more people create a larger bureaucracy thought. Having served on a number of private, charity and corporate boards I can tell you more is not always the answer. I think term limits would be a better approach. This way you don't have the same though process year after year. Two terms six years seems reasonably to me.
Concerned Commackian May 18, 2013 at 09:18 pm
Commack Parent is right. Its definately a costRead More issue.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! Thanks Parent, that was the best chuckle ive had all day!
LINANA May 17, 2013 at 12:28 am
Since past precedence for a number of years has been to send out literature informing ALL residentsRead More (including those with no children in the schools) of candidates bios, does the omission of the bios raise a legal issue? ??? We all pay school taxes and district has the obligation to provide us with this info. Shame on them!!!! Teacher's union is also "encouraging" votes for Egan & Behar and against adding two additional seats to the board. People with a vested interest "encouraging" you to vote a particular way should raise flags!!! Hopefully people will think for themselves and make an informed vote for the candidate they feel will best represent the students & residents of Commack.
Janice May 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm
IT does raise a red flag! I think it IS definitely time to vote for some new folks. I am going toRead More check out Hartman and Tampellini's bios. If I like what I see, I am voting for change
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 15, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Doing my best. Please spread the word. Thanks!
GM May 15, 2013 at 08:30 pm
You go Girl! Spread the word. It's less than a week until we vote and you can quickly educate usingRead More social media.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
ergodic May 16, 2013 at 11:09 am
Hey, PTA, BOE/// try lending a hand///don't criticize things you don't understand///the community isRead More clearly beyond your command///your 100 year road is rapidly aging///and, the times, they are changing. CUFSD has experienced a decline in total enrollment from a peak of 7830 in 2008-09 to 6934 (projected) in 2013-14, a decrease of 11.4%. During that period, spending per pupil increased from $19,759 to $25,871 - an increase of 30.9%. This performance does not reflect well on the financial management capabilities of the BOE. And, is it a surprise that NYSUT is an advocate for the status quo? A more democratic approach to decision-making via a vote for Prop 2 should be helpful.
re May 16, 2013 at 12:01 am
Vote yes for the additional members of the board. Save our schools. Save our schools with fairRead More representation. Join a new taxpayers representation committee at the Commack community assoc effective September 2013. Our next meeting is May 30 at 7pm at the Bristol assisted living community room( next to sears) Do not let this civic group wither away as it would be a victory for the school board that monitors any opposition to the way the district operates.