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What Our Readers Think: Main Reasons Behind Commack's School Budget

A round-up of readers' thoughts on Blogger Jim Tampellini's post on the school budget deficit.

Patch readers had a lot to say about blogger Jim Tampellini's opinion that the are the ever-increasing salaries of its teachers and administrators. It argues that the district has begun paying teachers and other district employees beyond what it can realistically afford. 

The following is a round-up of what our readers had to say. Keep the conversation going and post your thoughts in the comment section below.

wrote, "Who the hell are these quacks who determine when they get raises and how money is spent? If the system was run by brain dead monkeys we'd been in better shape than we are now. Unbelievable." 

commented, "I think it's about time the public start going after school employees about their salaries just as they did about the Wall $treet salaries and salaries of CEO's and other executive officers. There needs to be some sort of relief. But guess what? The schools have unlimited funds, that's US, the public. Despite the tax caps and what not, anytime money is needed, just like the federal government, all they need to do is go to the public and raise taxes. Unions SUCK. They have way too much power. They were good and indeed played a positive role during the "Sweat Shops" era, but they should be abolished now. Also, pension plans, retirement plans, what a sweet deal for them. But hello, they too should be moved to self-funded/self-managed 401k plans like the rest of the working world. But the unions won't allow that."

wrote, "Oh my god - now the teaching salaries are being compared to the crooks on Wall St. The teachers did not cause the economic collapse. Leave them alone. And unions are the backbone of this country! Whether its the electricians, the plumbers, the steel workers, or the teachers. Unions built this country. Don't be such a sore loser!"

said, "Thank you Jim, please don't let teachers & their spouses shut you down. I haven't had a raise in 2 years & for my husband it's been 4. Like you said, the PTA doesn't mention the teachers "contract raises". Dr.james also has some nerve with the salary & benefits he receives. He lives in Commack and takes a car allowance?! what a disappointment he is. Greed."

wrote, "What's most frightening about the support you are receiving Jim is that those who are swayed by your manipulation of information fail to ask this question:

How many children do you have in the school system? NONE. In fact, I believe you are so involved, for the first time, because your children are no longer students here. In short, you no longer have anything to lose YET a great many whose children will suffer blindly tie their allegiance to someone whose children have reaped the benefits of Commack education BUT who decided to take a stand when his children will not be impact. However, your pocketbook stands to benefit while our children lose the opportunities yours were given."

said, "I agree with what Jim has to say, I will vote no on the budget and I HAVE three children in three different schools in Commack. I believe what Jim is saying (and what most of us have been thinking) has nothing to do with his children being or not being in the schools anymore! This has to do with being a taxpayer and being overburdened year after year - the increases are not going to my children they are going to a broken system of overspending!"

commented, "You wait and see what your children have left if the budget doesn't pass. You are penny wise and pound foolish."

wrote, "Whats going to happen? Will the sky fall? Will my kids have to take notes on a piece of slate and write with a rock? Asking for fiscal responsibility is not selfish. People do it every day under their own roofs. This Board and the entire Long Island school system has shown us that when unchecked, the power to tax is simply dangerous."

wrote, ""Instead of spending that $250 how you would like, give it to us as we can spend it much wiser than you can. Oh, your just scraping by right now? Pay us more anyway because we need it more than you do. you should be ashamed of yourself for not wanting to pay more"

wrote, "Let us remember that the teachers have a life time of influence on our kids. I don't think that many people will disagree that a good teacher is priceless. However, we have to stop the name calling and work together to find a solution. Jim, your research has been very well crafted. Thank you! 
For those who say, "costs never go down" never bought a computer in the 1990's. How much was the first big screen tv? 
We, as a member of society, must deal with the fact that the entitlements, that currently exist, will have to change. I wish that was not the case. However, it is reality. 
I do not mean to bash teachers, however lets remember when we are comparing salaries, we are comparing apples to oranges. Most people do not work 184 days a year and less then 40 hours a week. When we discuss salaries, one must include all compensation paid (i.e. benefits) to make an accurate accessment. Unfortunately, the system is set up that great teachers make the same as teachers who just get by. I am in favor of paying those teachers that go above and beyond more then what they currently are receiving. However, defining a system to monitor that would be a difficult task. However, if we can put a man on th emoon we should be able to figure it out."

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Commackvoter May 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
Yes John Smith, agree that the PTA SHOULD have video taped and posted it somewhere for the communityRead More to view. This is the 21st century and there is no excuse for them not offering this for those who could not attend. Same goes for the CUFSD but at least the law prohibits them from banning taping public meetings.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 08:45 am
Hey John - No one is being slick. You incorrectly assumed that it was suspicious that there was noRead More video tape of the meet the candidates night. I can understand why you would think that but the fact is that the PTA did not allow any video. I wish video could have been done so the community could have seen each candidate themselves and make their own assessment. If you don't believe what I say just contact the PTA and confirm it with them....
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:29 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Retired May 19, 2013 at 09:52 am
@RL - I agree with term limits, but the law says that can only be proposed by the Board. The publicRead More cannot submit such a proposition. The board, at least the current one, will never agree to that b/c they want to keep themselves in power at any cost. By adding 2 new people Prop 2 may a provide an opportunity to have people on aboard that will consider proposing term limits, as well as other changes. So, yet another reason to Vote YES to Prop 2.
RL May 17, 2013 at 08:08 am
I agree new blood can be used and some new thinking and the way to accomplish that is to vote newRead More faces in. Does having more people create a larger bureaucracy thought. Having served on a number of private, charity and corporate boards I can tell you more is not always the answer. I think term limits would be a better approach. This way you don't have the same though process year after year. Two terms six years seems reasonably to me.
Concerned Commackian May 18, 2013 at 09:18 pm
Commack Parent is right. Its definately a costRead More issue.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! Thanks Parent, that was the best chuckle ive had all day!
LINANA May 17, 2013 at 12:28 am
Since past precedence for a number of years has been to send out literature informing ALL residentsRead More (including those with no children in the schools) of candidates bios, does the omission of the bios raise a legal issue? ??? We all pay school taxes and district has the obligation to provide us with this info. Shame on them!!!! Teacher's union is also "encouraging" votes for Egan & Behar and against adding two additional seats to the board. People with a vested interest "encouraging" you to vote a particular way should raise flags!!! Hopefully people will think for themselves and make an informed vote for the candidate they feel will best represent the students & residents of Commack.
Janice May 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm
IT does raise a red flag! I think it IS definitely time to vote for some new folks. I am going toRead More check out Hartman and Tampellini's bios. If I like what I see, I am voting for change
MJS May 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
Dawn-Marie Bailey May 15, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Doing my best. Please spread the word. Thanks!
GM May 15, 2013 at 08:30 pm
You go Girl! Spread the word. It's less than a week until we vote and you can quickly educate usingRead More social media.
MJS May 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm
It will be interesting to see what Mr. Behar does if he loses, since he is totally opposed to PropRead More 2. So if Prop 2 passes, and he chooses to take advantage of it and run again then in my eyes, and those of the Community, he will reveal himself to be a total Hypocrite. The same would go for Egan, since he too opposes Prop 2.
ergodic May 16, 2013 at 11:09 am
Hey, PTA, BOE/// try lending a hand///don't criticize things you don't understand///the community isRead More clearly beyond your command///your 100 year road is rapidly aging///and, the times, they are changing. CUFSD has experienced a decline in total enrollment from a peak of 7830 in 2008-09 to 6934 (projected) in 2013-14, a decrease of 11.4%. During that period, spending per pupil increased from $19,759 to $25,871 - an increase of 30.9%. This performance does not reflect well on the financial management capabilities of the BOE. And, is it a surprise that NYSUT is an advocate for the status quo? A more democratic approach to decision-making via a vote for Prop 2 should be helpful.
re May 16, 2013 at 12:01 am
Vote yes for the additional members of the board. Save our schools. Save our schools with fairRead More representation. Join a new taxpayers representation committee at the Commack community assoc effective September 2013. Our next meeting is May 30 at 7pm at the Bristol assisted living community room( next to sears) Do not let this civic group wither away as it would be a victory for the school board that monitors any opposition to the way the district operates.