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Charlie Cheswick July 3, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Agreed. While the rantings of caps-lock crazed conservatives whose sources are links to otherRead More ranting conservatives might make a compelling argument, consulting with your pediatrician is probably the wiser choice...
Laura July 3, 2014 at 01:26 pm
"Caps-lock crazed conservatives" ??? Come on now Charlie. That's not nice.
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Patricia Stack July 1, 2014 at 09:16 pm
This app is a MUST HAVE for college bound students and their parents! It simplifies and defines theRead More entire college application process! Thank you Ms. Portnoy!
mona June 29, 2014 at 10:01 pm
Yeah for the graduates!,,The track was closed for 5 days and guarded so the wise guy kids did notRead More graffiti it ...What is up with that?..
Christopher Wendt July 17, 2014 at 09:08 am
Look at the acceptance and enrollment numbers...Hofstra is in trouble, has been in trouble, wellRead More ahead of the decision to make SAT scores optional. This decision was a purely defensive move, to get butts into seats. Declining enrollment that has infested LI public school districts is now spreading to the local college level. Dowling may not survive because of declining enrollment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The good news, if you want to call it that, declining local college enrollment will force a consolidation of the market, closing campuses and entire schools that cannot get butts into seats, and in the bargain, driving down the cost of a local college education. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As far as lowering quality, yes that will be inevitable for schools that ease-off entrance qualifications. But that is not bad, because a growing number of would-be students do not really need a college education, and others do not need a top-shelf college education. Think of the difference between lawyers who will eventually go to Harvard Law and then to Washington DC or Wall Street, as compared to lawyers known as ambulance chasers, and those engaged in matrimonial and real estate practices versus all those interested in the law but not qualified to become actual lawyers and who will become paralegals. Like that.
GM Roberts July 20, 2014 at 11:55 am
To think this action is lowering standards and/or promoting a non-competitive paradigm is missingRead More the point that tests like the SAT or ACT are a very specific and narrow type of measurement and they can't gage the many different types of learning and manifested knowledge. A predominantly right-brained person does not usually do well with these more left-brained skewed tests, but their intelligence and skills are as valuable in the real world outside of academia. The fact that there is an entire industry devoted to tutoring students to learn HOW to take these tests should be a warning that the test results are not necessarily an indicator of acquired knowledge in its broadest meaning. These schools are not lowering entrance qualifications, they are including other forms of achievement-based criteria that don't necessarily lower quality but broaden what it means to be "educated." This seems to me to be a better reflection of reality as there are many different types of intelligence and not all can validly be tested on paper.
Christopher Wendt July 20, 2014 at 09:26 pm
@ GM Roberts: this deals with admission decisions into a college, and, specifically, with the SATRead More and ACT, not any other tests "like the SAT or ACT". Prospective students may continue to submit SAT and ACT scores for consideration. Likewise, this is specific to Hofstra, not "these schools", and your assertion that Hofstra is not lowering entrance requirements fails on examination of the number of students who actually matriculate at Hofstra despite a much larger number of acceptance letters having been sent out. Hofstra needs students, not just to be accepted, but to enroll, attend, and pay tuition. Lowering their standards (by making submission of SAT and ACT scores optional) would be one convenient way to attract less qualified prospects who are not just using Hofstra as their safety school, but who will actually attend Hofstra when accepted. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Failing to get student butts into seats would put Hofstra at risk, as Dowling College presently is. If Hofstra does not increase its enrollment, then the discussion of lowering standards will have become purely academic, as others discuss building a roller derby rink or ATV course, or affordable housing at the site of the former Hofstra University.
EG June 26, 2014 at 03:40 pm
School isn't supposed to be day care. People need to pay for their own day care.
Debbie Forsyth June 27, 2014 at 01:17 am
@GW6----Teachers do NOT get paid for the summer. They get paid for a 180 day school year. The Dept.Read More Of Education decided to dole it out in 24 payments. Some schools in other counties in NYS have the option of getting paid in 20 payments or 24 payments. It's still the same annual salary divided by different numbers. Comes out the same either way. You get vacation time and it's part of your salary, not extra vacation pay, am I right?
Sticks60 June 27, 2014 at 03:05 pm
No matter how the money goes out they get paid in Smithtown, on average, $100,000 with a benefitRead More package of almost $40,000. So maybe there should be a little more time spent working in the summer and making it more of a full time job like the rest of us seeing they get paid like us.
Deborah B. June 12, 2014 at 09:03 am
... and I agree that college is not for everyone. That is yet another reason why almost myopicRead More emphasis on ELA and math (and associated testing) -- to the near exclusion of just about everything else and its drain on financial resources -- is detrimental to our children.
dan June 13, 2014 at 08:57 am
Re: so what is the real agenda behind cc? Answer " an education economy. United StatesRead More secretary Duncan when building " race to the top" created it with investors. It was spearheaded by investors not educators . Rather than investing in low income schools with race to the top funds, they sought a return on their investment. With the agenda being creating a economy . The first education economy in history. What we are seeing is a new historical precedent. There are billions to be made in this field of education.
Jane L June 14, 2014 at 08:54 am
The agenda has little to with increasing educational standards and everything to do with getting ourRead More children to conform. To have them learn to do things the same way and not challenge the status quo. It's like the patriot act of learning. It gets them comfortable with submission. Years ago, teachers had to teach to their students modality... Some kids are audio learners, some visual, some tactile. The Core forces teachers to teach one way and forces the kids to regurgitate it the same way with no allowances for thinking outside the box to solve/answer questions. That's just WRONG. Our children are individuals and not robots. I fully support increasing standards. This is not the way. And for those who want to compare us to China and Japan, why? We have enough suicides at NYU. I want well rounded children who aren't expected to be perfect. Please see Matt Kibbe's commentary on Freedomworksforme.org. Thx
peter s. June 9, 2014 at 03:15 pm
How about teaching them spelling and grammar? Geography and History would also be good for them toRead More learn. So many children complete school while lacking in basic skills.
Skinny June 10, 2014 at 07:57 am
I'd like to see CPR and AED training offered as an elective. I agree with Mark's suggestion that ALLRead More kids take business math. There are too many economically illiterates exiting HS and college.
Aidan June 11, 2014 at 11:23 am
STOP asking schools to do everything … their primary mission has already been compromised byRead More the insertion of every possible social remedy into the school day.
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Dawn Urbanek June 10, 2014 at 10:01 pm
We have to make people aware that our State is run by public employee Unions and we need court casesRead More like today which ruled that the California Teacher Tenure rules are unconstitutional so that we can change laws and vote people out of office who do not represent the interests of the public who pay the taxes.
Spencer James July 11, 2014 at 04:19 pm
Something that is interesting to note is that high school grads are going to four year universitiesRead More and studying subject that isn't marketable. While on the other hand you have people getting vocational training at vocational schools that essentially guarantees them a job out of school that will make them 'x' amount of money. So it isn't that college degrees are worthless, some are. It is also said that sometimes trade school is the right choice! Spencer James | <a href='http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com/' > http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com/home.html</a>
Spencer James July 11, 2014 at 04:20 pm
Something that is interesting to note is that high school grads are going to four year universitiesRead More and studying subject that isn't marketable. While on the other hand you have people getting vocational training at vocational schools that essentially guarantees them a job out of school that will make them 'x' amount of money. So it isn't that college degrees are worthless, some are. It is also said that sometimes trade school is the right choice! Spencer James | http://www.newmexicodentalassisting.com
Edward F Moore May 24, 2014 at 07:48 am
My Father “The American Soldier”: My Father the American Solder is the closest man toRead More God I know. He was there to give me birth. He protected me as I grew to man hood. He sheltered my body and feed my soul and provided for my every need. He put his own Life and Liberty on the front battle field of war for his family. He became my Closest Friend and Mentor. He taught me Love by example and spoke very few words of love. He worked humbly in the factories of Life and bowed down to no man. He did not seek wealth or power but the joy of a smiling face from the Children. He never told a lie as he feared no man and sort no dishonest gain. He simply taught by example the simple truth of the Gospel. My Father The American Soldier: He lived a Life that said in deed. Take care of your family, your friends, and your fellow man and ask no thing in return; be there for them when they need you and be strong, give to the day you leave this Earth. My father the soldier simply puts in deed what most of us put in Words. My father the Soldier like Christ on the Cross simply heals and transforms the world by taking on the suffering burden of his fellow man, his family, his friends, and his whole world. My father the Soldier like Christ the son so loved his fellow man that he takes upon him-self his suffering and through his own Faith, Courage, Love bears this burden until his father in Heaven brings him Home. My Father The American Soldier: Those that equate the American Soldier with the terrorist who kill women and children while they commit human suicide have no understanding of the American Soldier, his history, and have never, been loved by the American Soldier. To protect the weak and the un-armed, to put him-self in arms way with the goal of returning home; back to his family, his Nation, his freedom. My father the American Soldier knows that he is the one that stands tall as a wall to protect, his family and the environment; his world where his family, his Children live and play, His Nation. My father the American Soldier understands that the wave of destruction must be stopped before it reaches his Home Land. My father the American Soldier understands that once these people on foreign land get a taste of Love and Freedom, they too, like the American Soldier will stand tall and spread the gospel of love, peace and freedom by their own example. As they too will want to preserve these LIVING SPIRITUAL PRINCIPLES of LIFE, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and FAMILY HAPPLYNESS for their CHILDREN. THE BOTTOM LINE THE AMERICAN SOLDIER IS THE TRUE FATHER OF OUR NATION. God bless these Men.
GLENN May 24, 2014 at 01:35 pm
Stony Brook is about 90% Asian they should accept other races too!
Pete Moran May 31, 2014 at 09:14 pm
That piece of shit Wunsch probably deleted them..
Pete Moran June 1, 2014 at 10:24 am
That A-hole Wunsch probaby deleted them..
Vrod June 1, 2014 at 08:58 pm
The people at Patch must know you are a jerk and removed your comments. Good job.
pbug56 May 22, 2014 at 08:58 am
It starts with the disappearing or dropping national ratings. It goes on with what I've observed asRead More to how a decent education is aimed mainly at the most compliant / normal students while those who have issues including disabilities are more warehoused then educated. My favorite is when Mr. James made it clear in public to a number of parents that he didn't see any problem with kids with disabilities not learning to read by the time they got to high school - said with a big smile on his face.
Commackouter May 22, 2014 at 09:42 am
pbug56: I find it very hard to believe that Dr. James actually did that. If it did though, IRead More suggest coming to the next Board meeting and speaking about what happened. A fairly serious accusation made under the cloak of internet anonymity.
Pete May 22, 2014 at 03:13 pm
Watch out Commackouter Patch and the folks perpetrating Lies will remove your comments shortly!!!Read More It's no wonder Patch and the Agenda of the folks who continue to lie on Patch FAIL!!
Theresa Flora May 27, 2014 at 11:40 am
I heard city teachers talking about a third party candidate. This isn't shocking. LiberalsRead More cannot, under any circumstances, vote for a prolifer. It really all boils down to that one issue. The whole charter school debate will be the stated reason they can't back Astorino, but some know better. I hate the idea Astorino scrubbed his charters school ideas from his website, because they weren't gonna vote for him anyway. Stand firm by your beliefs, Astorin. No waffling. If you're gonna go down, go down proud.
Theresa Flora May 27, 2014 at 11:41 am
Oh, and I'm sure Cuomo is gonna do right by the union. Those assessments will get untied to evalsRead More one way or another.
Theresa Flora May 28, 2014 at 07:20 pm
Yo, "Say No": here comes Ravitch. When she came to Fox Lane to speak, I was against it.Read More Hated it. For SO many reasons. Called her a book shill. And now I see a NY Daily News piece that she's being courted by Working Families. I'm not shocked. They (the Left) need...no, NEED, someone besides Cuomo, and definitely besides Astorino. He's too Tea Party-ish. C'mon! Where are you?? You have all these blog posts.... the poetry thingy...probably cursive too.... Come back!!! Please tell me I've been right all along.
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J April 30, 2014 at 10:17 am
Yik yak is awesome, its the kids who are using it that are not. There is no issue with the app justRead More the people using it.
Mels Ditties April 30, 2014 at 11:21 am
J...What is the positive objective of the app?...
Krista Cole April 30, 2014 at 01:30 pm
J, Awesome or not, it's being "used" for a really bad purpose. I say to the school: Get aRead More firewall and block the ports of Yik Yak--just like you block hackers, people. Then, hire a Java guy, who will come in and give a talk to the science classes on Java development and hold a contest for creating a Java application that does the most good to solve a REAL community issue. Hold a MySkoolTechAwards Show and sell tickets to pay for prizes and for the network firewall router. ;-) DONE.
South Side High School in Rockville Centre is among the best on Long Island, according to new rankings. (Patch file photo)
brookhavenconfucius May 20, 2014 at 01:30 pm
How is it in your gated community, there, Joe ? Or do you own a business that depends upon IllegalRead More Immigrants ?
Lorraine DeVita May 20, 2014 at 01:31 pm
too many here not enough headed back..
joe thrapp May 20, 2014 at 03:14 pm
learn baby , learn. earn baby, earn. And the nomination for the next President of the United StatesRead More is former Governor Jeb Bush and his new first lady Columbia Bush a native of Mexico. And the nomination for the next Vice President of the United States Senator Marco Rubio the son of an illegal immigrant from Cuba. This team will replace the administration of President Obama the son of a Kenyan Citizen. I depend on the welfare of immigrants in waiting for my future prosperity and safety here in these United States. Education for all and all of those who just think they have an education.
TJ Eckleburg April 24, 2014 at 04:55 pm
Well, Bob. Let me correct you. Paranoid Psycho Theresa Flora did NOT "call me out." IRead More called her out. Please keep track.
eatingdogfood April 24, 2014 at 07:10 pm
No, Eckleburg you called names, she called you out. Go away now.
TJ Eckleburg April 24, 2014 at 08:26 pm
"eatingdogfood" oh well... that explains everything about you.
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Lee Krauer April 22, 2014 at 12:35 pm
If these statistics are correct why are your PR folks making public statements to the contrary? IRead More was present and spoke at a Brookhaven Town Board meeting when the SBU folks indicated there was a large shortage of on campus housing. Your students tell us there are many two bed rooms that are assigned to three students and there are some instances of non students staying n the dorm rooms . You need to work with the community, as Dr. Marburger did, to work out these issues. The residents of Stony Brook are not a part of the university the university is part of us. Our taxes keep all state schools open and we deserve to be treated as your benefactors, which in fact we are .
prof mom April 23, 2014 at 09:37 am
Wait. Flanagan gave them $100,000 towards these fields? That our community used to rent and lostRead More them to the University?? shame on you Flanagan. Enjoy your term. You are such a disapppointment.
Wendy April 23, 2014 at 07:03 pm
Lee is absolutely right.
Andrew Scott April 18, 2014 at 03:21 pm
Sorry, Mike. Wrong again. It would indeed be different if the flag in question were a swaztika, forRead More swaztikas are MUCH more widely understood for the symbol that they are. From very early on in New York - and I assume for the rest of the country - Swaztikas are understood - without question - to be symbols of death, genocide, and the Holocaust. (And please don't bring up the Jains of India.) IF the student in question had brandished a flag with a swastika, an appropriate punishment would indeed be a short suspension. I would NOT consider throwing the student out, however, unless he were also found guilty of verbal or physically harassing students, or inciting violence on campus. I WOULD hold a administrative hearing where all involved parties would be present. And then I would demand an apology from the student, one private to the school leaders, and then one made publicly to the student body. I would also make sure that the student UNDERSTOOD WHY what he did was wrong. Some sort of community service or charitable work may also be added to the penalty. This kind of response would be much more of a service to the current (former) student. It is healthier solution, and in the long run, would do far greater good than the present unforgiving, unyieldingly abhorrent alternative.
lizbeth smiley April 18, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Andrew Scott, you are spot on.
Chuck W. April 19, 2014 at 12:11 am
First off, if these kids were star football players, they would not have been expelled (editor'sRead More note: I went to Chaminade, and they pretty much always beat us). One of the things a private catholic school education is supposed to drive home is a broad knowledge of social contexts and a general sense of maturity and decorum.....this act was a complete lack of that. If anything it shows that these kids were complete knuckleheads that probably shouldn't have even made it to senior year. That said, the confederate flag, regardless of your beliefs is a legal act of free speech, just as it is to desecrate a crucifix. Kids have gotten less severe punishments for far worse behavior. A stiff suspension, ban from the prom or graduation would have been fine, maybe a message to the students. This punishment is knee jerk and reactionary.....If the Bro. Cregan's students are truly living the catholic faith, they will heal and forgive...but give them that chance.
Billy Joel applauded and smiled during at the “The River of Dreams: A Billy Joel Tribute Concert” in Glen Cove. Credit: Glen Cove School District
teena April 11, 2014 at 07:05 pm
so sick of hearing everyone blaming the parents. the show ended, the parents were all leaving (toRead More get back to work!) and billy joel was sitting right by the exit. all the parents had to pass him. the 'mob' that bothered him for autographs was teachers who brought out their soloist along with their parents. he left because half the auditorium was leaving!
TJ Eckleburg April 11, 2014 at 07:34 pm
lindy, get off my lawn is a mentally ill teabagger.
Gabe Gonsalves April 14, 2014 at 10:34 am
Billy Joel is a class act.......I know him from my younger days. The man is true to his roots.
The Innovation & Discovery Center will join the Center of Excellence for Wireless and Information Technology and the Center of Excellence in Advanced Energy Research Technology in the University's Research & Development Park.
Edwin Casado Baez April 26, 2014 at 04:30 am
The lack of support for an economic engine like Stony Brook is astonishing by the above posters. AreRead More you really aware of the importance of the State University of New York at Stony Brook as job creator, service provider to the community, cultural center, and academic center for all Long Islanders including the immediate community. This is puzzling that in times of economic hardships people are complaining of increased direct investment nearby their communities. It seems like some are more focused their value of their homes "going down" due to illegal rentals yet not realizing that their values of their homes have probably gone up due to the value that the University has provided since 1962. Unless you have been around prior to 1962, then you have benefited of the University. The growth will continue, and nothing will stop Stony Brook U from racing its way to the top of AAU Universities. Hold on tight, or move elsewhere
brookhavenconfucius April 26, 2014 at 05:54 am
The, so called 'economic engine' is a voracious, CONTINUOUSLY, TAX PAYER MONEY SUCKING 'machine',Read More that NEVER, NEVER, gets enough...it ONLY WANTS MORE TAX PAYER MONEY ! 'PAYOFF' ? The MONEY SUCKING MACHINE, STALLS, OUTSIDE the gates, at Stony Brook rail ! ESPECIALLY, these NANO TECH SCAMS ! Most of them are just FREELOADING ON TAX PAYERS FOR A FREE RIDE AND PRODUCING NOTHING OF IMMEDIATE, INTRINSIC SOCIETY VALUE...all it produces is Political Power, with NO RETURN ! THE BIGGEST RECENT SCAM, is Comrade Cuomo's, collectivization of business, with...ahem..'ed-gee-cation', known as START UP NY. These, allegedly, Tax Free Zones, haven't drawn FLIES ! That they are based upon the proven and FAILED, ideologies from the old Soviet Union, it is no surprise, and are another BLACK HOLE FOR TAX PAYER MONEY, WITH NO EXPECTED RESULTS.
brookhavenconfucius April 26, 2014 at 07:27 am
EDWIN, do you KNOW, what they teach in these PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES ? AND THEY take a student's money,Read More AND DON'T PROVIDE HOUSING ? THIS IS YOUR TAX PAYER MONEY, NOT WORKING...GET IT ?
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Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Liz, my point is a reality about home values. Not a stretch as you suggest. I know a principal whoRead More invited local realtors in for open houses to demonstrate how well the school was doing to offset the negative publicity portrayed by media. I saw firsthand parents who relocated to another school based on test scores. Parents don't trust realtors, they look on Greatschools.com and see a test score. Newspapers and news outlets report test scores, they don't take the time to break down why they schools score low let alone why they score high. Most parents won't spend the time to interview or do a walkthrough for a public school before attending.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Liz, not to beat a dead horse, do your own research about test scores and home values. I think youRead More will be convinced.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm
Disgusted, you are talking about teacher union leadership. IMO Tenure and teacher unions are killingRead More the quality of American education. Be accountable or get out of the profession.
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
Concerned Parent March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/03/17/how-common-core-standards-kill-creative-teaching
Case closed April 23, 2014 at 08:01 pm
Parents are being told to attend tutoring for common core so they may help their children. If theRead More wheel ain't broke Stop trying to fix it. Case closed
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
knee jerk February 3, 2014 at 08:08 am
This is the last of the taxpayer funded snow days. Next we dip into the taxpayer fundedRead More "personal" days and after they run out, we dip into the taxpayer funded "vacation" days.
Ryan Bonner May 27, 2014 at 05:43 pm
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